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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:43 AM   #26521
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I don't know about that. Maybe he just wants to play in championship games because they are rare. Who knows how many more of them he will see during his career.
To many athletes a big payday exponentially outweighs winning in general Justin Houston is an example not taking a pay cut.
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:58 AM   #26522
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To many athletes a big payday exponentially outweighs winning in general Justin Houston is an example not taking a pay cut.
We have no idea whether that was offered to Houston as an option.

Given his shitty leadership, I’d lean no.
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Old 01-22-2020, 08:26 AM   #26523
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To many athletes a big payday exponentially outweighs winning in general Justin Houston is an example not taking a pay cut.
This is literally just making things up based on a predetermined personal narrative.

Jones probably doesn't even know if he will be back next year and the Chiefs probably don't either because all the pieces have to work.

That being said his team is on the cusp of winning a SB but had to get there first, he wasn't going to sit out if he could play regardless and to think otherwise is nonsense.

The truth is SB winning Chris Jones is worth more $ on the market than non SB winning stayed on the sidelines Chris Jones anyway.

I don't get the impression anyone on this team is playing for their next payday to be honest, they just seem to be having fun and enjoying playing. It is a pretty tight team.

And as someone else pointed out there is no evidence anywhere Houston was given the option to take a pay cut with KC, and he did take a pay cut to go to Indy.
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Old 01-22-2020, 08:34 AM   #26525
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:04 AM   #26526
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This is literally just making things up based on a predetermined personal narrative.

Jones probably doesn't even know if he will be back next year and the Chiefs probably don't either because all the pieces have to work.

That being said his team is on the cusp of winning a SB but had to get there first, he wasn't going to sit out if he could play regardless and to think otherwise is nonsense.

Really, a paragraph away you inserted your personal narrative you can't have it both ways
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:30 AM   #26527
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Really, a paragraph away you inserted your personal narrative you can't have it both ways
True but what actually happened supports my theory.
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So have y'all looked much at the advanced stat called PAA? Points Added above Average QB. I was looking at this for both 2019 regular season and postseason, then started looking at previous playoff performances. What Mahomes is doing right now is INSANE.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seaso...qbpaa/dir/desc

Prime Aaron Rodgers won 4 games for a Super Bowl in 2010-2011 season. He was graded at +18 in points added for the 4 games. Mahomes is already at +21 after only two games. Russell Wilson has played extremely well in his 2 playoff games this year and he is graded at +10.6 points added. Patrick is on an unbelievable level right now.

This stat also confirms what people have said about Russell Wilson's early career. When he won the Super Bowl in 2013-2014 season, he was graded as a NEGATIVE 0.3 points added throughout the playoff run.

The legendary Nick Foles playoff run was graded as +13.5 points added in 3 games. Mahomes is off the charts incredible through 2 games. Closest thing to him is Peyton Manning in 2009-2010 when they lost Super Bowl to Saints. Peyton graded at +21.5 points for 3 games. Mahomes is already there in 2 games, haha. Plus Mahomes is doing that in cold weather. Peyton's playoff run was Indy dome, Indy dome, and Super Bowl in Miami. Not one cold weather game in there.
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According to this morning's sample, the amount of talent in Patrick Mahomes would be a twinkie 35 feet long and weighing approximately 600 pounds."
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To many athletes a big payday exponentially outweighs winning in general Justin Houston is an example not taking a pay cut.
Punctuation would help you make this very valid point a lot clearer.
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According to this morning's sample, the amount of talent in Patrick Mahomes would be a twinkie 35 feet long and weighing approximately 600 pounds."
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So have y'all looked much at the advanced stat called PAA? Points Added above Average QB. I was looking at this for both 2019 regular season and postseason, then started looking at previous playoff performances. What Mahomes is doing right now is INSANE.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seaso...qbpaa/dir/desc

Prime Aaron Rodgers won 4 games for a Super Bowl in 2010-2011 season. He was graded at +18 in points added for the 4 games. Mahomes is already at +21 after only two games. Russell Wilson has played extremely well in his 2 playoff games this year and he is graded at +10.6 points added. Patrick is on an unbelievable level right now.

This stat also confirms what people have said about Russell Wilson's early career. When he won the Super Bowl in 2013-2014 season, he was graded as a NEGATIVE 0.3 points added throughout the playoff run.

The legendary Nick Foles playoff run was graded as +13.5 points added in 3 games. Mahomes is off the charts incredible through 2 games. Closest thing to him is Peyton Manning in 2009-2010 when they lost Super Bowl to Saints. Peyton graded at +21.5 points for 3 games. Mahomes is already there in 2 games, haha. Plus Mahomes is doing that in cold weather. Peyton's playoff run was Indy dome, Indy dome, and Super Bowl in Miami. Not one cold weather game in there.

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This is a great chart, but the accompanying article really shows Mahomes' significance. Essentially, Mahomes is having an unprecedented year for QB play in the playoffs. And PFF says that if he keeps it up, he should hoist the Lombardi.

For a greater explanation, see here:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-patrick...season-pff-era

The article is long so I won't post the whole thing, but here's the intro:

When the Tennessee Titans‘ play-action game seemed unstoppable for the Kansas City Chiefs‘ defense on Sunday afternoon and the Titans took 10-0 and 17-7 leads, a team-agnostic win probability model (a model that knows only the score and time remaining of the game) had the Titans’ chances to win the game at above 80%. Our own win probability model at PFF, which accounts for the strengths of the teams, had the Titans going to the Super Bowl 60% of the time after offensive lineman Dennis Kelly caught a touchdown to put them up by 10 for the second time. The live betting market, however, never considered the Titans to be the favorite during the game, illustrating the sheer confidence the Chiefs inspire in the public. It’s not hard to figure out where the confidence comes from.

Patrick Mahomes might be on the verge of playing the best postseason we’ve ever seen, and one could fill a whole article with the superlatives, starting with averaging 0.58 expected points added per pass play while already having nine of his passes dropped in only two games (12% of his passes were dropped). In the AFC title game, he didn't register one negatively graded throw, and his overall PFF grade through the first two postseason games is a whopping 95.7 — easily the highest among the twelve playoff quarterbacks. In this article, we want to compare his play in different facets to other postseasons since 2006 (when we started thoroughly collecting data) and address the difficulties one encounters when doing such a small-sample analysis.
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