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TLO · 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

Kiimo · 02-20-2019, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

https://www.chiefs.com/news/five-thi...?sf208094919=1

Nice little article. I really love the idea of him taking a year off to learn the game. House knows what's up in the sec, Daly brings ideas from an innovative defense. Good chance the defense we see is nothing like what spagnuolos used in the past. Wasn't long ago people thought Andy Reid was just pretty good on offense before he stumbled into being the leading offensive mind in the NFL.

You know, before we spend another day on here putting square pegs in round holes and breaking our backs trying to figure out which of Houston or Ford is the RDE maybe we should take a hard look at this article and see that Spags is going to tailor the defense TO the guys instead of the Sutton method of the opposite maybe he might just keep both?

Chris Meck · 02-20-2019, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

You know, before we spend another day on here putting square pegs in round holes and breaking our backs trying to figure out which of Houston or Ford is the RDE maybe we should take a hard look at this article and see that Spags is going to tailor the defense TO the guys instead of the Sutton method of the opposite maybe he might just keep both?

that's all fine and good; the point is that you will have almost $40 million tied up in Houston and Ford.

If you think that's cool, then I guess.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-20-2019, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

https://www.chiefs.com/news/five-thi...?sf208094919=1

Nice little article. I really love the idea of him taking a year off to learn the game. House knows what's up in the sec, Daly brings ideas from an innovative defense. Good chance the defense we see is nothing like what spagnuolos used in the past. Wasn't long ago people thought Andy Reid was just pretty good on offense before he stumbled into being the leading offensive mind in the NFL.

According too that article Mahomes was a little bit of an influence for him to come to KC.

Kiimo · 02-20-2019, 06:37 PM

Yeah. I mean, of course he was, but still nice to actually hear.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

https://www.chiefs.com/news/five-thi...?sf208094919=1

Nice little article. I really love the idea of him taking a year off to learn the game. House knows what's up in the sec, Daly brings ideas from an innovative defense. Good chance the defense we see is nothing like what spagnuolos used in the past. Wasn't long ago people thought Andy Reid was just pretty good on offense before he stumbled into being the leading offensive mind in the NFL.

Translation:

"**** YES I'm excited to be here with Reid and Mahomes! When I put together a defense that won't LOSE games just to get us started, we've got this thing LICKED and are headed straight to a Championship"!

Is what I read.

UChieffyBugger · 02-20-2019, 07:29 PM

Tbh if Spags were to stick with the 3-4 it would make sense as it would be way easier to sort the defense out quickly rather than having an entire scheme change and worry about whether our current players could fit into the new scheme. Keeping Ford and Houston as edges would then be worth it as they were just part of the best pass rush In the league last season. All we would then need to do add key pieces to the secondary, LB group and a few on the DL.

Bailey, Sorensen, Nelson, Conley, Ware, Morse etc leaving should create more than enough cap space to absorb Houston/Ford for one more year, then we could just let them go next offseason If need be. I just think Spags has to think long and hard about splitting up that pass-rush trio that was so effective last season.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Tbh if Spags were to stick with the 3-4 it would make sense as it would be way easier to sort the defense out quickly rather than having an entire scheme change and worry about whether our current players could fit into the new scheme. Keeping Ford and Houston as edges would then be worth it as they were just part of the best pass rush In the league last season. All we would then need to do add key pieces to the secondary, LB group and a few on the DL.

Bailey, Sorensen, Nelson, Conley, Ware, Morse etc leaving should create more than enough cap space to absorb Houston/Ford for one more year, then we could just let them go next offseason If need be. I just think Spags has to think long and hard about splitting up that pass-rush trio that was so effective last season.

No sir. That defense as a base is ****ing garbage and it's LONG past time to move on. Listen to Danny. Be the ball.

UChieffyBugger · 02-20-2019, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

No sir. That defense as a base is ****ing garbage and it's LONG past time to move on. Listen to Danny. Be the ball.

No-one is saying keep the whole defense, I'm saying keep the scheme and the BEST PART of the defense which was the pass rush. As much as people are yelling for "change", a change in scheme could take time for the players to adjust to and could cost us games In the process.

htismaqe · 02-20-2019, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

No-one is saying keep the whole defense, I'm saying keep the scheme and the BEST PART of the defense which was the pass rush. As much as people are yelling for "change", a change in scheme could take time for the players to adjust to and could cost us games In the process.

Keep the scheme?

chiefzilla1501 · 02-20-2019, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

No-one is saying keep the whole defense, I'm saying keep the scheme and the BEST PART of the defense which was the pass rush. As much as people are yelling for "change", a change in scheme could take time for the players to adjust to and could cost us games In the process.

So your window is one year? We have a 23 year old mvp at QB. I can't imagine they'll cost us games any more than they did in 2018. Our offense can hold serve until then. There's no reason to rush and build a low ceiling defense, when we can patiently build a high ceiling defense we can ride for many years.

That's why we hired excellent assistants. And my guess is, we buy a lot of stopgap veterans this season to step in. It'll be a hell of a lot better than if we tried to make a bad defense work.

Chargem · 02-21-2019, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Keep the scheme?

I think he means stay in a 3-4 base, rather than keep the scheme.

**New World Order** · 02-21-2019, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

No-one is saying keep the whole defense, I'm saying keep the scheme and the BEST PART of the defense which was the pass rush. As much as people are yelling for "change", a change in scheme could take time for the players to adjust to and could cost us games In the process.

There's not even a gif alive that would even show a tenth of disgust I have for this post

Red Dawg · 02-21-2019, 06:21 AM

Keep the scheme? Why would that happen? Clearly scheme is one of the problems besides the fact we had a terrible defensive staff. Old and tired with no ability to make players better. The run defense never got any better and the pass defense didn't get any better. They cleaned house one year too late in my book.

UChieffyBugger · 02-21-2019, 06:35 AM

My point is the issues on defense were more to do with a lack of quality players in key positions such as the secondary and line-backing group, coupled with Bob's lack of aggression, rather than it being about the 3-4 system. Everyone wants the whole thing torn down and I get it, but we've only got one season left until Pat's contract turns the team's cap upside down. So this is why I wouldn't mind keeping things more simple for at least another season and rather than get rid of everything, just keep the system, keep the pass rush and add heavily to the secondary and lb group.

Folks may disagree but Spags said he'll look at the roster and go with what fits the players best. So yall better be prepared for some disappointment If he decides to take the SAFE route and follow my advice

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**New World Order** · 02-21-2019, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

My point is the issues on defense were more to do with a lack of quality players in key positions such as the secondary and line-backing group, coupled with Bob's lack of aggression, rather than it being about the 3-4 system. Everyone wants the whole thing torn down and I get it, but we've only got one season left until Pat's contract turns the team's cap upside down. So this is why I wouldn't mind keeping things more simple for at least another season and rather than get rid of everything, just keep the system, keep the pass rush and add heavily to the secondary and lb group.

Folks may disagree but Spags said he'll look at the roster and go with what fits the players best. So yall better be prepared for some disappointment If he decides to take the SAFE route and follow my advice

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I don't want to let Houston and Ford walk but we can't keep both. We need secondary/LB help.

I'd rather have an impact safety and a solid starter at some other position than Houston or Ford.

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UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $670400	Tbh if Spags were to stick with the 3-4 it would make sense as it would be way easier to sort the defense out quickly rather than having an entire scheme change and worry about whether our current players could fit into the new scheme. Keeping Ford and Houston as edges would then be worth it as they were just part of the best pass rush In the league last season. All we would then need to do add key pieces to the secondary, LB group and a few on the DL. Bailey, Sorensen, Nelson, Conley, Ware, Morse etc leaving should create more than enough cap space to absorb Houston/Ford for one more year, then we could just let them go next offseason If need be. I just think Spags has to think long and hard about splitting up that pass-rush trio that was so effective last season.
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $3102858	Keep the scheme? Why would that happen? Clearly scheme is one of the problems besides the fact we had a terrible defensive staff. Old and tired with no ability to make players better. The run defense never got any better and the pass defense didn't get any better. They cleaned house one year too late in my book. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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02-21-2019, 06:35 AM	#2639
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $670400	My point is the issues on defense were more to do with a lack of quality players in key positions such as the secondary and line-backing group, coupled with Bob's lack of aggression, rather than it being about the 3-4 system. Everyone wants the whole thing torn down and I get it, but we've only got one season left until Pat's contract turns the team's cap upside down. So this is why I wouldn't mind keeping things more simple for at least another season and rather than get rid of everything, just keep the system, keep the pass rush and add heavily to the secondary and lb group. Folks may disagree but Spags said he'll look at the roster and go with what fits the players best. So yall better be prepared for some disappointment If he decides to take the SAFE route and follow my advice .
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