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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:34 PM   #2626
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:34 PM   #2627
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No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.
Yep. The Mizzou rivalries with Baylor, Texas Tech, BYU, West Virginia, and Louisville will be missed. So much tradition in the Big 8+4-2-2.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:35 PM   #2628
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:36 PM   #2629
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NO other defection from the big 12 killed their own states economy as much as the MU one could. Thanks #mizzou
Why would it hurt the state's economy? I see no reason that the Big XII tourney won't still be at the Sprint Center. If it moves, I guess the state will have to make do with the revenue that comes with hosting Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, etc.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:36 PM   #2630
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:36 PM   #2631
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**** it....kill the Big 12 now. Move KU to the Mountain West and let's be done with this shit.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:36 PM   #2632
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I figured the educated MU folk would see beyond joining the hillbilly conference. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm sure MU will fit right in. Lower academic standards is all MU could muster since the Big 10 shut them out. When do the rockin' and whittlin' courses start? That has to be the reason to join, it certainly isn't finishing 7th in football.

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Old 10-04-2011, 06:37 PM   #2633
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I figured the educated MU folk would see beyond joining the hillbilly conference. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm sure MU will fit right in. Lower academic standards is all MU could muster since the Big 10 shut them out. When do the rockin' and whittlin' courses start? That has to be the reason to join, it certainly isn't finishing 7th in football.

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Old 10-04-2011, 06:37 PM   #2634
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:38 PM   #2635
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:38 PM   #2636
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Vandy
Georgia
Arkansas
South Carolina
Auburn
aTm
Kentucky

Other than 1 season with Cam Newton, none of the above schools have been appreciably better than Mizzou over the last decade, and Mizzou has beaten 2 of them in bowl games (SC and Ark) while owning one of them (aTm) in conference play.

There are 3 dominant teams in the SEC as opposed to 2 dominant teams in the Big XII. Mizzou will be fine.
Woah.. slow down there. First, of course if you throw out a NC season there's one less NC season. The fact is that there have been 5 straight NCs from the SEC won by 4 different schools.

Further, in your confined 10 year period there have been 8 different SEC teams in the conference championship game. In the same time period there have been 6 different Big XII teams in their conference championship game, including Mizzou twice (losing both times),

SEC Conf. Champ. Game Appearances
LSU 4
Florida 3
Tennessee 3
Georgia 3
Arkansas 2
Auburn 2
Alabama 2
South Carolina

In the last 10 years the Big XII has had 2 teams who have been to 2 or more BCS games. In the same time period the SEC has had 5 teams with 2 or more BCS game appearances.

Sure, the SEC has some bottom feeders in the conference, but it's not nearly as top-heavy as the Big XII has been.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:38 PM   #2637
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This is what I find funny, all you Mizzou fans think you are superior because you got invited to the SEC. The only difference is that you have more tv sets then kansas schools. You flamed out and did jack sh*t in the big 12 and you will flame out and do jack sh*t in the sec, travel further, and lose traditional rivalries.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:38 PM   #2638
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I figured the educated MU folk would see beyond joining the hillbilly conference. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm sure MU will fit right in. Lower academic standards is all MU could muster since the Big 10 shut them out. When do the rockin' and whittlin' courses start? That has to be the reason to join, it certainly isn't finishing 7th in football.

Mizzou hasn't gone anywhere yet. Not sure why you are so butthurt.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:38 PM   #2639
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