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ROYC75 · 02:02 PM

Discussion: All things Broncos.

RunKC · 05-12-2018, 12:30 PM

I’m so glad Kansas City doesn’t have media like Cecil Lammey and Mike Klis. Teicher may be horrible but he’s not a raging homer like those clowns.

**jjchieffan** · 05-12-2018, 12:33 PM

Seriously. Is KnowShit Cecil Lameass? His posting style matches that losers tweets to a T.

BlackOp · 05-12-2018, 12:35 PM

If the Vikings, even remotely, suspected that Keesum was an ascending player with an upwards trajectory...they would have signed him for $18 million. The fact they were willing to spend $30 million for a slightly above average QB in Cousins says they didn't believe he would get better. This was the team that saw him everyday in practice/meetings. He was vetted...

Vikings are a legit SB contender and that additional $12 million they threw at Cousins could have been used to fortify them for a prolonged run.

Bottom line...they didn't like him (as a player). They didn't think he was good enough...

vailpass · 05-12-2018, 12:39 PM

Chiefs, Jaguars among most vulnerable division winners

1) Kansas City Chiefs (AFC West)

When Alex Smith (33 interceptions over the past five seasons) was at quarterback, the Chiefs knew he wouldn't turn the ball over. They can't assume the same with second-year pro Patrick Mahomes taking the reins in 2018. Mahomes' future is bright, but I don't think he'll be off-the-charts great immediately -- he's only started one game in the NFL, and you have to expect hiccups when working in a younger, less-experienced player like that. And, of course, former offensive coordinator Matt Nagy -- now coaching the Bears -- will be missed. Kansas City did add some offensive firepower by signing receiver Sammy Watkins, but the real issue here is the defense, which gave up points and yards by the bushel last season. Marcus Peters, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali are gone, while Justin Houston hasn't reached double digits in sacks since 2014. Signing linebacker Anthony Hitchens was a smart move, and cornerback Kendall Fuller -- who came over in the trade that sent Smith to Washington -- is a good player, but I don't see anyone on the roster who can rush the passer like Houston in his heyday. The key is safety Eric Berry. Will he be fully recovered from the Achilles tear that wiped out his 2017 season?

The competition: The Chargers, who finished 9-7 last season, are much improved, especially on defense -- and with veteran kicker Caleb Sturgis on board, I don't think they'll have the kicking problems that effectively kept them from making the playoffs last year. Jon Gruden's Raiders will be better. Denver has a QB in place (Case Keenum) who will help win some games, while the Broncos' defense will get a huge boost from the addition of rookie Bradley Chubb. This collection of teams will make it very difficult for Kansas City to defend its division title.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...vision-winners

staylor26 · 05-12-2018, 12:43 PM

Lol Do Broncos fans ever have original takes of their own?

This guy lists Tamba Hali as a loss, like he contributed at all last year. Anybody that thinks losing Tamba and DJ (after signing Hitchens) makes the Chiefs worse is clueless and their opinion can’t be taken seriously.

TomBarndtsTwin · 05-12-2018, 12:46 PM

I think its fair to say we might be a little ‘vulnerable’ this year, as we’ve had a lot of turnover on defense and will be starting, in essence, a rookie QB all season. I mean, we’ve basically been unbeatable in the division for 3 years now (5-1 in 15, 6-0 in 16, 5-1 in 17), so its simply playing the odds to say KC may take a step back in the division.

Now with that being said, I dont think the Donkos are the team that will take advantage of that vulnerability. If anyone challenges KC, it will be Sandy Eggo. Vegas & Mile High will be battling for basement supremacy.

staylor26 · 05-12-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I think its fair to say we might be a little ‘vulnerable’ this year, as we’ve had a lot of turnover on defense and will be starting, in essence, a rookie QB all season. I mean, we’ve basically been unbeatable in the division for 3 years now (5-1 in 15, 6-0 in 16, 5-1 in 17), so its simply playing the odds to say KC may take a step back in the division.

Now with that being said, I dont think the Donkos are the team that will take advantage of that vulnerability. If anyone challenges KC, it will be Sandy Eggo. Vegas & Mile High will be battling for basement supremacy.

Yea I definitely think it would be the Chargers.

I’m actually picking them to win the division this year.

**New World Order** · 05-12-2018, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Lol Do Broncos fans ever have original takes of their own?

This guy lists Tamba Hali as a loss, like he contributed at all last year. Anybody that thinks losing Tamba and DJ (after signing Hitchens) makes the Chiefs worse is clueless and their opinion can’t be taken seriously.

KC is better on paper than last year at pretty much every position.

Corner:

Amerson+Fuller>Peters+Gaines (ugh) or Mitchell (ugh)

ILB:

Hitchens+Ragland>DJ +Ragland

NT:

Williams+Nnadi>Logan

Pass rush: Added Speaks. No more Frank Zombo.

Safety: Berry returning

WR: Sammy Watkins

And of course the most obvious upgrade: Pat Mahomes

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-12-2018, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea I definitely think it would be the Chargers.

I’m actually picking them to win the division this year.

In gods name why? What have the Chargers shown you in the last 5 seasons and drafts that could possibly compel you to arrive at that conclusion?

That teams trajectory and arrow have been pointing firmly downward for years. It's been a slow dive, but it IS a dive. And when Rivers is finished, that will close the casket for good.

**jjchieffan** · 05-12-2018, 01:09 PM

I expect a slow start as the team gels. The NFL did the Chiefs no favors with 3 of the first 4 at home. KC could well be 2-2 after 4. Actually 0-2, then climbing back to .500 after kicking the shit out of the Donks in Pike High week 4. From that point, I expect them to be in contention for the division the rest of the season.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-12-2018, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order

KC is better on paper than last year at pretty much every position.

Corner:

Amerson+Fuller>Peters+Gaines (ugh) or Mitchell (ugh)

ILB:

Hitchens+Ragland>DJ +Ragland

NT:

Williams+Nnadi>Logan

Pass rush: Added Speaks. No more Frank Zombo.

Safety: Berry returning

WR: Sammy Watkins

And of course the most obvious upgrade: Pat Mahomes

Yup, no excuses for Mahomes

**New World Order** · 05-12-2018, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Yup, no excuses for Mahomes

Is that you Tiger?

BlackOp · 05-12-2018, 01:21 PM

I guess I'm more optimistic than the pundits that dont watch every game.

Smith played like dogshit during that losing streak...those long stretches where the offense went anemic due to Smith playing not to **** up are gone.

The scoreless 2nd half of the Titans game doesn't happen if Mahomes was playing.

Donk fans/media pundits have four months left to bag on KC/Mahomes. It'll be the last time they do...

PMII isn't a rookie...He made Albert Wilson look like an all-pro. That was all I needed to see...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-12-2018, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Yup, no excuses for Mahomes

And just what the **** is that supposed to mean anyway? Sounds like you're still pining for a game-managing, nowhere QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-12-2018, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order

Is that you Tiger?

I'll tell you what there are no excuses for; idiotic football fans who, like John Gruden, believe that team building philosophies and strategies from 20 to 30 years ago still have ANY relevance in today's NFL, that's what.

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BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $4285267	If the Vikings, even remotely, suspected that Keesum was an ascending player with an upwards trajectory...they would have signed him for $18 million. The fact they were willing to spend $30 million for a slightly above average QB in Cousins says they didn't believe he would get better. This was the team that saw him everyday in practice/meetings. He was vetted... Vikings are a legit SB contender and that additional $12 million they threw at Cousins could have been used to fortify them for a prolonged run. Bottom line...they didn't like him (as a player). They didn't think he was good enough... Last edited by BlackOp; 05-12-2018 at 12:40 PM..
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05-12-2018, 12:39 PM	#26359
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	Chiefs, Jaguars among most vulnerable division winners 1) Kansas City Chiefs (AFC West) When Alex Smith (33 interceptions over the past five seasons) was at quarterback, the Chiefs knew he wouldn't turn the ball over. They can't assume the same with second-year pro Patrick Mahomes taking the reins in 2018. Mahomes' future is bright, but I don't think he'll be off-the-charts great immediately -- he's only started one game in the NFL, and you have to expect hiccups when working in a younger, less-experienced player like that. And, of course, former offensive coordinator Matt Nagy -- now coaching the Bears -- will be missed. Kansas City did add some offensive firepower by signing receiver Sammy Watkins, but the real issue here is the defense, which gave up points and yards by the bushel last season. Marcus Peters, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali are gone, while Justin Houston hasn't reached double digits in sacks since 2014. Signing linebacker Anthony Hitchens was a smart move, and cornerback Kendall Fuller -- who came over in the trade that sent Smith to Washington -- is a good player, but I don't see anyone on the roster who can rush the passer like Houston in his heyday. The key is safety Eric Berry. Will he be fully recovered from the Achilles tear that wiped out his 2017 season? The competition: The Chargers, who finished 9-7 last season, are much improved, especially on defense -- and with veteran kicker Caleb Sturgis on board, I don't think they'll have the kicking problems that effectively kept them from making the playoffs last year. Jon Gruden's Raiders will be better. Denver has a QB in place (Case Keenum) who will help win some games, while the Broncos' defense will get a huge boost from the addition of rookie Bradley Chubb. This collection of teams will make it very difficult for Kansas City to defend its division title. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...vision-winners __________________ “Education is a weapon whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.” Joseph Stalin
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-400960	Lol Do Broncos fans ever have original takes of their own? This guy lists Tamba Hali as a loss, like he contributed at all last year. Anybody that thinks losing Tamba and DJ (after signing Hitchens) makes the Chiefs worse is clueless and their opinion can’t be taken seriously.
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05-12-2018, 12:46 PM	#26361
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $3679883	I think its fair to say we might be a little ‘vulnerable’ this year, as we’ve had a lot of turnover on defense and will be starting, in essence, a rookie QB all season. I mean, we’ve basically been unbeatable in the division for 3 years now (5-1 in 15, 6-0 in 16, 5-1 in 17), so its simply playing the odds to say KC may take a step back in the division. Now with that being said, I dont think the Donkos are the team that will take advantage of that vulnerability. If anyone challenges KC, it will be Sandy Eggo. Vegas & Mile High will be battling for basement supremacy.
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05-12-2018, 01:09 PM	#26365
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $1512248	I expect a slow start as the team gels. The NFL did the Chiefs no favors with 3 of the first 4 at home. KC could well be 2-2 after 4. Actually 0-2, then climbing back to .500 after kicking the shit out of the Donks in Pike High week 4. From that point, I expect them to be in contention for the division the rest of the season.
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05-12-2018, 01:21 PM	#26368
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $4285267	I guess I'm more optimistic than the pundits that dont watch every game. Smith played like dogshit during that losing streak...those long stretches where the offense went anemic due to Smith playing not to **** up are gone. The scoreless 2nd half of the Titans game doesn't happen if Mahomes was playing. Donk fans/media pundits have four months left to bag on KC/Mahomes. It'll be the last time they do... PMII isn't a rookie...He made Albert Wilson look like an all-pro. That was all I needed to see...
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