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Old 05-10-2018, 01:15 PM   #26296
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:16 PM   #26297
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I promise I didn't write this article. Maybe the writer follows my posts here and at the Mange? Either way it is what I have been saying all off season.

At the least you are #1 at something other than Sooie calls this offseason:

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Chiefs, Jaguars among most vulnerable division winners

1) Kansas City Chiefs (AFC West)

When Alex Smith (33 interceptions over the past five seasons) was at quarterback, the Chiefs knew he wouldn't turn the ball over. They can't assume the same with second-year pro Patrick Mahomes taking the reins in 2018. Mahomes' future is bright, but I don't think he'll be off-the-charts great immediately -- he's only started one game in the NFL, and you have to expect hiccups when working in a younger, less experienced player like that. And, of course, former offensive coordinator Matt Nagy -- now coaching the Bears -- will be missed. Kansas City did add some offensive firepower by signing receiver Sammy Watkins, but the real issue here is the defense, which gave up points and yards by the bushel last season. Marcus Peters, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali are gone, while Justin Houston hasn't reached double digits in sacks since 2014. Signing linebacker Anthony Hitchens was a smart move, and cornerback Kendall Fuller -- who came over in the trade that sent Smith to Washington -- is a good player, but I don't see anyone on the roster who can rush the passer like Houston in his heyday. The key is safety Eric Berry. Will he be fully recovered from the Achilles tear that wiped out his 2017 season?

The competition: The Chargers, who finished 9-7 last season, are much improved, especially on defense -- and with veteran kicker Caleb Sturgis on board, I don't think they'll have the kicking problems that effectively kept them from making the playoffs last year. Jon Gruden's Raiders will be better. Denver has a QB in place (Case Keenum) who will help win some games, while the Broncos' defense will get a huge boost from the addition of rookie Bradley Chubb. This collection of teams will make it very difficult for Kansas City to defend its division title.
Any article that lists losing Tamba and a finished DJ, is silly. Tamba hasn’t played effectively in three years. DJ is all but finished.


Mahomes had no problems in Denver to end the season vs Von in the cold ass weather.
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:18 PM   #26298
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One start and suddenly he is a proven starting NFL QB? A single start where he threw more INT's than TD's?

Even if he is serviceable there is a huge void on your D.

You guys think the NFL is Madden on the easy setting where you can just run fly patterns all day and win 70-10
KC won the division with a terrible defense last year. But don’t let facts get in the way you stupid ****ing bastard
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:20 PM   #26299
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Any article that lists losing Tamba and a finished DJ, is silly. Tamba hasn’t played effectively in three years. DJ is all but finished.


Mahomes had no problems in Denver to end the season vs Von in the cold ass weather.
DJ wasn't finished last year but had taken a sharp decline. He was still OK but it was not going to get any better.

He could either be the same as last year with the Raiders or even further decline.

Hitchens for sure should be a noticeable improvement and Ragland should also be a bit improved.
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:21 PM   #26300
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He has been through a full NFL season as a starter where he won 11 games.

Your guy threw an INT with backup secondary defenders on the field and won a nail biter against a team quarterbacked by Paxton Freaking Lynch who was the worst of 3 bad QB's on the team.

Epic that because of that one game which came down to a FG against 7 backups on D you guys think he is a proven NFL starter.

I know it has been forever since you guys drafted a QB and he has actually won a game but it usually takes QB's a year or 2 to become a proven QB.
So Von Miller wasn’t on the field the last drive?
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:26 PM   #26301
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DJ wasn't finished last year but had taken a sharp decline. He was still OK but it was not going to get any better.

He could either be the same as last year with the Raiders or even further decline.

Hitchens for sure should be a noticeable improvement and Ragland should also be a bit improved.
DJ is finished. He had a couple splash plays but wasn’t effective.
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People who call Hali a "big loss" should have their opinions thrown in the garbage

The man made 1 tackle last year
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DJ is finished. He had a couple splash plays but wasn’t effective.
He was rated 77.3 which is #33 LB on PFF and I don't think that's far from the truth.

He was far from the star player he was before but he wasn't a liability either.

Definitly a good move to move on from him though.
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People who call Hali a "big loss" should have their opinions thrown in the garbage

The man made 1 tackle last year
If anything, Hali should have been released way before and he hurt the team just by being on the roster.

I personnally thought he could at least help for the playoffs but he was just useless throughout.

Peters though is definitly a big loss in my book and I don't care about the fans who pretend that the defense played better that one game that he missed. I would love if he was still on this team.
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He was rated 77.3 which is #33 LB on PFF and I don't think that's far from the truth.

He was far from the star player he was before but he wasn't a liability either.

Definitly a good move to move on from him though.
I get it. He looked like he may have something left late in the year but he was just too ineffective on this defense regardless of his PFF rank. Love the guy but I just don’t think he’s got very much left at all
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If anything, Hali should have been released way before and he hurt the team just by being on the roster.

I personnally thought he could at least help for the playoffs but he was just useless throughout.

Peters though is definitly a big loss in my book and I don't care about the fans who pretend that the defense played better that one game that he missed. I would love if he was still on this team.
Dorsey ****ed that contract up with hali. What a disaster
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Mahomes was up by 2 TD’s and would have blown you out.

The only reason it was close was bc Tyler Bray fumbled a handoff for a Denver TD
If Lynch didn't throw 2 INT's Broncos would have won.

It works both ways.
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If Lynch didn't throw 2 INT's Broncos would have won.

It works both ways.
Thats comparing apples and oranges, asshat.
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So Von Miller wasn’t on the field the last drive?
How many times do I need to tell you guys that the Broncos had to play starters on the DL because of lack of depth due to injury.

There were 7 of 11 guys who were 2nd or 3rd team or guys called up off the practice squad.

Some kFc fan genius posted a thread on the Mange where he said Wolfe was out there too when Wolfe was on IR. You guys see what you want to see I guess. After nearly a half century without a SB appearance I guess being excited about a meaningless game at the end of the season is a big deal for you.

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