Investing megathread extravaganza

[DaFace]

A place to talk about investing stuff.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Fair enough.

And by and large **** taxes.

But most guys are seeing benefit of the tax bill

The problem is that taxes are stupidly confusing, so most people don't really understand them well enough to pay close attention to what their employers are doing with their withholdings. Most "normal" people did, indeed, pay fewer taxes this past year, but most also didn't withhold enough, so overall people are getting less back in refunds than they're used to. That's causing a lot of angst, as a lot of people use them as a sort of forced savings account that then allows them to catch up on some things once a year.

In other words, yes, people paid fewer taxes this year. But most just absorbed the extra $50 per paycheck without really noticing it but are now short the extra $500 they were typically used to at the end. To 90% of people, that feels like the tax bill screwed them over even when it really didn't.

Here's a good article that talks through some of the numbers:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/tax-...ont-panic.html

[SuperBowl4]

Invest in LEAD and FOOD

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4

Invest in LEAD and FOOD

But not lead in food.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem is that taxes are stupidly confusing, so most people don't really understand them well enough to pay close attention to what their employers are doing with their withholdings. Most "normal" people did, indeed, pay fewer taxes this past year, but most also didn't withhold enough, so overall people are getting less back in refunds than they're used to. That's causing a lot of angst, as a lot of people use them as a sort of forced savings account that then allows them to catch up on some things once a year.

In other words, yes, people paid fewer taxes this year. But most just absorbed the extra $50 per paycheck without really noticing it but are now short the extra $500 they were typically used to at the end. To 90% of people, that feels like the tax bill screwed them over even when it really didn't.

Here's a good article that talks through some of the numbers:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/tax-...ont-panic.html

Makes sense. I haven’t done a ton of W-2 only returns, but the ones I have the federal is OK but the state is way underwithheld. Because Kansas.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I hate Presidents day!

Post office=closed
Banks=Closed
Stock Market=Closed
Fishing =Closed

I didn't know that fish observed President's Day.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by lewdog

All right, **** IQ. Time to go with a real company.

Pfizer it is.

This is a swing or short term trade? Why, Pfizer? Is it a play on PBM regulation?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I didn't know that fish observed President's Day.

They do when its 28 degrees and the winds blowing.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I hate Presidents day!

Post office=closed
Banks=Closed
Stock Market=Closed
Fishing =Closed

How is fishing closed?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

They do when its 28 degrees and the winds blowing.

I think you need to sack it up sir. I was out yesterday in 10 below, 25 mph winds, and hauling my fishing gear over a mile each way in a sled.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

What happened? Most dudes are coming out favorably. Preparers are fussy because government made something simple insanely hard, but most dudes are better than they were before.

I just hate that I work hard, supposed to get more money, and it goes back into taxes for the city, school (see below) and everyone wants more. Every bill went up Jan 1. DTV, water, paper etc.

The city decided to build a new city hall and pool. I am close to paying as much in taxes as my house payment. Which I get no credit for. F Hennepin County.

We prepaid a lot. We do not have anything taken out for farm cash rent, so we have to prepay it. I get no credit for tuition for kid because I MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY.

Let me tell you what it is like to be a teacher in the district I teach in.

I voted for the referendum. It usually helps with a pay raise. I will pay more in property taxes and income tax so that I can get a pay raise so I pay more taxes. The ultimate vicious circle.

Our school district is still 5 Mill in the hole because the Fed government does not fully fund Special Ed. Meaning I may lose my co-worker who I really like. And may have to train someone new. I hate that.

ok. /rant for now.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think you need to sack it up sir. I was out yesterday in 10 below, 25 mph winds, and hauling my fishing gear over a mile each way in a sled.

Now thats dedication. I'm impressed!

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think you need to sack it up sir. I was out yesterday in 10 below, 25 mph winds, and hauling my fishing gear over a mile each way in a sled.

And you didn't know that the fish had the day off. That's rough.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think you need to sack it up sir. I was out yesterday in 10 below, 25 mph winds, and hauling my fishing gear over a mile each way in a sled.

Canyon Ferry?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem is that taxes are stupidly confusing, so most people don't really understand them well enough to pay close attention to what their employers are doing with their withholdings. Most "normal" people did, indeed, pay fewer taxes this past year, but most also didn't withhold enough, so overall people are getting less back in refunds than they're used to. That's causing a lot of angst, as a lot of people use them as a sort of forced savings account that then allows them to catch up on some things once a year.

In other words, yes, people paid fewer taxes this year. But most just absorbed the extra $50 per paycheck without really noticing it but are now short the extra $500 they were typically used to at the end. To 90% of people, that feels like the tax bill screwed them over even when it really didn't.

Here's a good article that talks through some of the numbers:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/tax-...ont-panic.html

Do they really use it as a sort of savings account? Most people I see around here are using tax refunds like a 2nd Black Friday. In fact, Walmart will have a massive electronics sale any time now.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do they really use it as a sort of savings account? Most people I see around here are using tax refunds like a 2nd Black Friday. In fact, Walmart will have a massive electronics sale any time now.

Well, what I mean is that they use it as a savings account throughout the year so that they can spend it all on something in the spring (as opposed to reducing withholdings to aim for $0 owed). I'd bet it's a minority that actually puts the refund itself into a savings account.