New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[ferrarispider95]

Originally Posted by UCF Knight

Butthurt much?

No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.

[Crush]

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe



I think we've seen enough from Chuck Neinas, who is now bleeding schools at a faster rate than I ever did.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.

Nobody from Mizzou ever said a word about that. The only person who did was Jay Nixon.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.

Oh, you are one of those.

[ferrarispider95]

I hope we gouge them and A&M for every penny we can get on the way out.

[KcMizzou]

getnickwright nick wright
From that perspective, I love it. I wanna talk SEC. RT @jfishSOTW KC media are pissed. Can't pay attention to just one conference now.

[Saul Good]

Mizzou should stay because traveling to Gainesville is too far. On an unrelated note, we will be adding West Virginia and BYU. /Neinas

Cities closer to Columbia than Provo Utah include every city in the SEC and, Montreal ****ing Canada.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

I hope we gouge them and A&M for every penny we can get on the way out.

A woman scorned.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.

Go menstruate about it another thread bitch.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

I hope we gouge them and A&M for every penny we can get on the way out.

You better, your TV contracts are getting SLASHED.

[KcMizzou]

Missouri Fans Triumph In SEC Campaign

Published on: October 04, 2011 | Written by: Clay Travis

Missouri fans decided they wanted to join the SEC and they would not accept no for an answer. Over the past three weeks the Tigers have inundated the board of curators, administrators, and other athletic department officials demanding that the Tigers join the SEC. A few minutes ago those fans' voices were heard: Missouri officially announced its board of curators had unanimously given the president of the university authority to explore conference options. Welcome to the SEC, Missouri fans, you've fought for a league bid when your administration wanted to stay in the Big 12 and risk the future.

When the administration was too afraid to act, the Missouri fans stepped up and refused to risk the status quo. What if the Big 12 nears implosion again in a few years -- which it will -- what if Missouri is left standing when this game of conference realignment musical chairs comes to an end? Nope, Missouri fans weren't willing to risk that.

Not hardly.

That's because the college football universe has changed. And it's not all because of conference realignment. If this had been 1992, the last time the SEC expanded, Missouri's administration could have ignored the fan base and the massive percentages of Mizzou fans -- approaching 90% -- who wanted the SEC. But with the rise of social media, the Internet, Twitter, and Facebook, fans have the ability to mobilize like never before. OKTC felt the groundswell of fan support ever since we broke the news a month ago that Missouri had become the SEC's top target for a 14th school.

Missouri fans visited the site in record numbers as we continued to post updates on the Big 12 insanity. Finally, Chuck Neinas, interim Big 12 commissioner gave the SEC an opening. Asked whether the Big 12 would survive without Missouri Neinas replied: "Yes, I think it could be viable because there's a lot of strength in the conference."

If the Big 12 wasn't going to die, then the SEC couldn't be blamed for swooping in and making a second big-time addition in the same month.

Now that Missouri is exploring options, let's consider what we know.

1. SEC commissioner Mike Slive winsthis stage of realignment.

Slive's SEC adds two AAU schools, doubling the SEC's number of members, adds 31 million people to the SEC's existing 50 million population footprint, goes in to two new states with large media markets, and snags two of the Big 12's four most valuable programs -- Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Missouri were the four most valuable remaining Big 12 schools.

Given that Oklahoma came with the price of Oklahoma State, Texas has always been too scared to join the SEC, and West Virginia isn't a good school and has contractual committments in the Big East until 2014, Texas A&M and Missouri are plum additions.

2. The SEC Network in partnership with ESPN is coming.

This is still not getting much attention outside of OKTC, but I'm telling y'all this -- the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri is not just about getting more money out of the existing network deals. This is about more, a coming network partnership between the SEC and ESPN that will be a stand-alone channel modeled after the Big Ten Network.

Read about that network in two columns I did last week.

How quickly could this station launch? In time for the 2012 football season if both sides move rapidly.

3. Missouri will make a decision to join the SEC by December 1, 2011.

That's because as OKTC told you last week -- there is no legitimate fear of a lawsuit and the Big 12 bylaws are so poorly drafted the damages for departing will be limited. You can read why that is here.

Missouri's exit fee should be the exact same as Texas A&M so long as they leave the Big 12 before December 1, 2011.

4. Auburn will swing to the SEC East.

This will be discussed at the SEC athletic director's meeting taking place tomorrow.

The SEC will play with two divisions.

The SEC East will be: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Auburn

The SEC West will be: Texas A&M, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State

5. Who will be Missouri and Texas A&M's yearly rivals?

You'll note that with Auburn's move to the SEC East, the Iron Bowl will become the cross division rivalry. Auburn's game against Georgia will be preserved now as a divisional game.

That means Tennessee and Georgia will need new yearly rivalry games. Who will play Texas A&M and who will play Missouri? That will also be discussed at the SEC athletic director's meeting tomorrow.

Here's an early guess for the Vols drawing Texas A&M. Yep, A&M may have dropped one UT for another.

Now, UT fans are already noting this -- the yearly UT-Alabama game would be the biggest casualty of realignment. The game could be preserved for a year or two, but going forward it would require either nine conference games -- a move that the lesser football schools would fight like hell because it might kill their bowl chances -- or an expansion to 16 and a further reevaluation of all schedules.

6. Now comes the prolonged courtship dance between Missouri and the SEC.

It's already started, and it's a bit like how a vice-president is selected as a running mate.

The offer doens't come until you're sure of the answer.

Missouri will now prepare an application for the SEC and the SEC presidents will consider that application.

Expect for it to be accepted.

And expect for Missouri to join the conference at the same time as Texas A&M.

There's only one complexity that can happen now -- what if the Big Ten suddenly awakes from its slumber and gets interested in expansion too? Then the conference realignment hibernation comes to end in an instant. Until then, and I don't think the Big Ten is moving, Missouri fans are going to be working on their suntans.

Put on sunglasses, Mizzou, the future is bright. And lined with sundresses and championships.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/missou...c-campaign.php

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

No, just sick of their crap from last year. They essentially started this whole mess last year when they wouldn't shut their mouth about the big 10.

Then when we start making some ground on keeping together they start tap dancing around and won't make a commitment.

Throwing out regions and rivalries so they can get their ass kicked in the sec.

Nixon was the only one who said something publicly.

[Mr. Plow]

Eh, kind of sucks. Going to miss the rivalry with MU. Yeah, it was a bit lopsided in both sports, but it was still fun.

[Al Bundy]

Speaking of Butthurt

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
NO other defection from the big 12 killed their own states economy as much as the MU one could. Thanks #mizzou

[ferrarispider95]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Oh, you are one of those.

Yes, one that thinks the college athletics should stay as far away from becoming the nfl.

It could have been KU or KSU with the invite and I will be pissed if they left.

All about the dollars, a week long decision based on 100 year rivalry.