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[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Chiefs gave up FAR fewer points. Are defense is better.

You don't believe that.

Denver had 34 turnovers and KC only had 11. The turnovers by our O/ST's are a major reason why our defense gave up more points than they should've.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

It'll be interesting to see how Keesum handles #1. A new playbook and sub-par coaching. #2 Playing outdoors in winter. He has only played one year outside of a dome and turned it over 16 times in 10 games. #3. Handling the aforementioned behind a line that ranked #30 in sacks..Packers/Lions/Bears do not have Houston/Mack/Bosa.

Keesum has 41 turnovers in 41 games and has averaged 1.12 TDs per game for his career.

It'll be interesting to see how much better he'll be since this is the first time he's ever been "The Guy" going into a season.

Who knows, Keenum could be the next Rich Gannon.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So, your offense that didn't improve at ANY position is still total dog Shit then....cool

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I didn't say he would dominate. I said that I would take him over Keesum. But I would have taken Semen over Keesum too. I believe that he will really be a disappointment to the Donks. Last year does not match
his career performance. He will revert back to what he is behind thaut horrid line. Back to Mahomes. I hope that does dominate. But I've got tempered expectations. But I don't expect the turnover machine that some of you guys think he will be. He's never shown to be a turnover machine at all.

He will dominate.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

So, your offense that didn't improve at ANY position is still total dog Shit then....cool

They improved at QB, RT, TE, #3 WR, and #4 WR. The addition of Keenum should help our #1 and #2 WR's as well, I mean, look at how much Thielen and Diggs' numbers jumped after MIN brought in Keenum.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

It'll be interesting to see how much better he'll be since this is the first time he's ever been "The Guy" going into a season.
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There is some strong logic behind that post....

That rig-job of a SB season really did a number on the Donko fanbase. They think that their defense is still great and any QB can win a SB with a crappy o-line.

Did you forget the late officiating in the KC game...and the first NE game....or S. Smith dropping a gimmie TD to ice the Ravens game? or playing the Steelers with all their star players out? Or that Cleveland had the ball on your 46 and a 2nd and 10...with 53 second and threw an INT in a tie game THEN had a 1st and 10 on your 39 in OT? McCown was sacked twice in a row then a penalty. All they had to do was gain 5 yards and decided to pass.

Any one of those and you lose HF advantage...(Steelers was post-season). That team could (should) have been 8-8.

That team had a historic amount luck and sketchy officiating....like killing the first Panthers drive in that joke of a HGH-infused SB on a bogus call.

Nobody outside of Denver takes that "Papa Johns bowl" serious.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Casssel was more impressive in 2010 than Keesum was last year. No doubt about it. Expect 2011 Cassel in Pile High.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Even if he was Gannon (he's not). Gannon wouldn't take a bottom three AFC roster (which Denver is) to the playoffs.

They even get a cheap 2-0 start to boot and still have ZERO shot at winning the division.....ouch

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by New World Order

They could bring in Rick Mirer and a bunch of unknown young players like you mentioned and you'd still think they could win the division.

Wait... was Rick Mirer available?

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Wait... was Rick Mirer available?

You're not the only one who prefers Mirer over Keesum.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Until proven otherwise....2-11 LAST PLACE Denver Broncos

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Until proven otherwise....2-11 LAST PLACE Denver Broncos

Totally... and, I'd argue that you could take the 2 away as well.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

They improved at QB, RT, TE, #3 WR, and #4 WR. The addition of Keenum should help our #1 and #2 WR's as well, I mean, look at how much Thielen and Diggs' numbers jumped after MIN brought in Keenum.

Sounds to me like you are basing your predictions for the season on Keesum being a huge improvement over Semen. While I realize that it doesn't take much to be better than anything the Donks had behind center last year, your boy Keesum just isn't what you think he is. And Gannon wasn't all that great either. He just lucked Into a perfect situation with 2 HOF receivers. Keesum will be the same guy that we've seen for the past 10 years, wait and see. If he was as good as you think, then the Vikings would have held on to him instead of paying stupid money to Cousins. Also, you don't know that you've improved at TE, WR3 or WR4. Butt hasn't played in over a year, and your 2 rookie WRs aren't guaranteed to do squat. Until they show it on the field, I don't see anything for you to get excited about.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Totally... and, I'd argue that you could take the 2 away as well.

No -Denver got two "quality wins" over two other last place teams. Those are keepers. But he is correct - 2 wins out of your last 12. That alone should usher in caution, but not with most of the entitled / delusional and foolish Last Place Denver Broncos fan base.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

It'll be interesting to see how much better he'll be since this is the first time he's ever been "The Guy" going into a season.

Who knows, Keenum could be the next Rich Gannon.

For that matter, Mahoney (or whatever it is) could be the next Gannon.