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Thing is, we can draft impact DL in a few spots in this draft. You aren’t getting near a Conerly type later in this draft (most likely). DL can also be addressed in volume. 2-3 good DL can equal or surpass the impact of one great guy. You can’t address OT in volume by having several that are okay.
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Behind door 1: Josh Conerly and TJ Sanders Behind door 2: Derrick Harmon and Charlest Grant Give me door 1 all day, every day.
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Because of how expensive left tackles have become they have turned into qbs back when we didn’t have one.
Should just keep taking shots at them over and over or invest a first round |
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You can make a great case for both
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Another player that the league ****ed over on arm length. Reminder that unbiased NFL scouts do these arm lengths at pro days in front of everyone, not anybody from Ohio State.
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I could easily be talked into Conerly as long as it only costs the one pick.
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That’s been my point from the beginning. The separation in talent from Simmons and Conerly from the rest of the LT prospects is large. It’s a big gap, IMO. But the talent at DT is strong and the DT player that we could get at 31 is not nearly as big a drop off. The gap bn the next DTs that are available is not nearly as big. Like you said take Conerly and sanders over players like Harmon and Grant. The depth of DT makes it easier to take a LT in the first.
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Are we sure Conerly or Simmons are for sure things? They both have issues.
Could argue that taking Harmon at #31 and TJ in the 2nd makes more sense. Yes its doubling up on DTs but man it would help our DLine! |
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https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/after...-visit-packers Josh Simmons was on his way to a big-time final season as Ohio State’s left tackle until suffering a torn ACL. He did work out in front of scouts at OSU’s pro day. A pair of Ohio State stars who figure to be first-round draft picks, receiver Emeka Egbuka and offensive tackle Josh Simmons, were in Green Bay on Monday for predraft visits with the Packers. Receivers are always going to get the most fanfare, and that’s especially true in Green Bay, where a receiver has not been picked in the first round since Javon Walker in 2002. He was joined by Simmons, the left tackle who suffered a season-ending knee injury in October. The news, reported by ESPN.com’s Adam Schefter, comes despite confirmation from Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst that last year’s first round pick, Jordan Morgan, will compete with Rasheed Walker to be the team’s starting left tackle. Based on Green Bay’s pending free agents following the 2025 season, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out there will be some turnover on the offensive line. Walker, right tackle Zach Tom and right guard Sean Rhyan will be playing on expiring contracts in 2025, and center Elgton Jenkins will carry a hefty cap number into 2026 that might require a third contract, which is something the Packers typically shy away from. If the Packers think Morgan’s long-term position is at guard, adding another offensive tackle makes sense. Simmons was the blindside protector for Ohio State’s prolific offense in 2024. He transferred from San Diego State to Ohio State after the 2022 season to help increase his draft stock and chase a national championship. Midway through the 2024 season, he looked on track to achieving both goals. The Buckeyes were undefeated when Simmons went down for the rest of the season with a torn patellar tendon. The injury sidelined him for the rest of the season and prevented him from going through predraft testing, though he did work on the side during the Buckeyes’ pro day a couple weeks ago. I'll probably be cut loose mid-April to give everybody a good pro day,” Simmons said at the Scouting Combine. From a talent perspective, some evaluators think Simmons could have been a top-10 prospect if healthy. Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com ranked Simmons 37th in his most recent top 50. Jeremiah wrote in part: “Simmons is a gifted left tackle prospect. … He has excellent size, movement skills and balance. In the passing game, he has a smooth/fluid set. … In the run game, he plays under control, stays on his feet and maintains leverage/position. … What he put on tape this fall should generate plenty of optimism about his chances of becoming a quality starting left tackle in the NFL.” During a pre-Scouting Combine conference call, Jeremiah said a healthy Simmons “could start right away” for his new team. A quality starting left tackle is something most NFL teams would not pass up. Simmons certainly has the size to play on the outside at 6-foot-4 7/8 and 313 pounds. All he could do at the Scouting Combine was the bench press, in which he put up a robust 34 reps at 225 pounds. His arms measured 33 inches. Simmons was having the best season of his collegiate career before the injury. According to Pro Football Focus, Simmons allowed no sacks, no hits and just one hurry in 158 pass-protecting snaps in his six games. He allowed only one sack and 15 pressures during his career for the Buckeyes. He was penalized once in 2024; he was flagged a staggering 17 times as San Diego State’s right tackle in 2022. For the Packers, Walker started 32 consecutive games the last two seasons, but how high are they on him as a long-term player? Not so high that they won’t make him fight for his job this summer. LaFleur made it clear last year that, despite Walker’s emergence as the team’s starting left tackle, he had not fully arrived. There were more things he needed to improve on with the nuances of being a professional. “He's been doing a better job, for sure. And I think it all starts with his approach,” LaFleur said last fall. “I’ve noticed just how intentional he is in his preparation. Furthermore, the offensive line is something the Packers are always going to focus on, having drafted three blockers in three of the last four drafts. Gutekunst just watched the Philadelphia Eagles maul their way to a Super Bowl. One of the teams they mauled en route to winning the NFC, was Gutekunst’s Packers. Gutekunst appeared to take note in his season-ending press conference. “Those big guys are hard to find, so that's never something we're not going to address,” Gutekunst said. “We've been pretty consistent (with) that in our time here. We very much believe that, with the exception of quarterback, winning in the trenches is how we need to get it done.” |
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Can you imagine this board if we took Fautana last year in the first and came back and took Simmons this year? The packers may do that?
We’ve been really lucky with our oline draft pics. Trey was a late round pick. Creed was a huge hit. Kingsley looks like a quality oline pick. I believe Wanya Morris is our long term RT. It might be time to invest in a 1st round LT. A few teams are really showing that the trenches is where you invest your draft capital. This statement makes sense…. “We very much believe that, with the exception of quarterback, winning in the trenches is how we need to get it done.” |
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The closer we get to the draft the more the national pundits are starting to sound like parrots of each other.
Half are saying Simmons and the other half Conerly....with one pundit saying we could take Kaleb Johnson from Iowa in the 2nd round....that is the first time I have seen his name mentioned with the Chiefs. |
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I really think it won't be an OT at #31.
My reasoning: you drafted Kingsley knowing he was raw. You threw him out there and he got exposed. But the raw material is still there, and a Conerly is still going to be a year away. So what's the point? Moore gives you time. Gimme a DT or a DE at #31. That's my vote, which means Veach will do something entirely different. Lol |
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Agree with this a lot depends on what they think of Kingsley and the fact he was considered a late first round draft prospect by a lot of people. Just turned 22 and also if their releasing Taylor after this year those two things could factor in on taking a tackle in the first round.
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