Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 170

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**gblowfish** · 04-10-2013, 11:15 AM

Mark Davis career stats with Royals:
3 years,
9-13 record. Started 14 games.
Had 7 saves in three years.
5.31 ERA
In 168 innings pitched, gave up 168 hits, 139 Ks, 119 walks.
And they paid him around $9 million dollars in 1990's money.

I was wrong about his years here. It was 1990-1992.
Sabes won 2 Cy Youngs as a Royal, 1985 and 1989.
So in 1990, we had both Cy Young winners.

Deberg_1990 · 04-10-2013, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Eisenreich had Torets syndrome .

Yea,i know.....but people with Torets creep me out and i have a nephew that has it....sorry for the offends....

kc rush · 04-10-2013, 11:52 AM

David Howard and Jim Pittsley have to be on the horrid list somewhere.

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:01 PM

How about favorite Royals who weren't very good?

I loved Mike McDougle...Rusty Meachem, too.

Bob Hamelin was awesome.

Warren Cromartie
Hubie Brooks

mr. tegu · 04-10-2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How about favorite Royals who weren't very good?

I loved Mike McDougle...Rusty Meachem, too.

Bob Hamelin was awesome.

Warren Cromartie
Hubie Brooks

This is an easy one. Ken Harvey!

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:04 PM

Nominations for the all washed-up team:

Bill Buckner
Pat Tabler
Wally Joyner
Greg Jeffries
Jason Kendall
Benito Santiago

KCUnited · 04-10-2013, 12:05 PM

Aaron "streetfighter" Guiel

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

This is an easy one. Ken Harvey!

Limatime

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:08 PM

Didn't we used to have some monstrous black guy who crushed 500 foot bombs 1% of the time but sucked the other 99%? I feel like he had three names and came from the Reds...

Hootie · 04-10-2013, 12:11 PM

Glenallen Hill

Deberg_1990 · 04-10-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Limatime

HerpeTime!

Hootie · 04-10-2013, 12:12 PM

doesn't look like he played for the Royals but he was a monstrous black guy who fit that exact description

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Didn't we used to have some monstrous black guy who crushed 500 foot bombs 1% of the time but sucked the other 99%? I feel like he had three names and came from the Reds...

Might have come from the Red Sox...

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:13 PM

I might be thinking of Wily Mo Pena. Didn't we sign him at one point?

Deberg_1990 · 04-10-2013, 12:16 PM

Clint Hurdle was the first big draft bust i remember. Ive still got his rookie card somewhere

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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