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Old 02-27-2025, 01:14 PM  
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Old 02-27-2025, 09:57 PM   #241
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Didn't they tag Sneed last year? I was hoping he would rework that deal and stay with the team. He didn't. Maybe this is a means of holding on to him in an effort to get something back? I don't think tagging him means he will be on the team.
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:02 PM   #242
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Of course it is - I just don't see the worry right NOW for this upcoming season. Yes, Kelce, Thuney, and Taylor are all on the way out is inevitable but that is not in the here and now. That is for a next season outlook and not this season's worries is all I am saying.
Oh. Yeah my point was that we can afford to pay Smith because we won't be paying Kelce, Thuney, and Taylor very soon.

So, I was being positive.
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:03 PM   #243
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Didn't they tag Sneed last year? I was hoping he would rework that deal and stay with the team. He didn't. Maybe this is a means of holding on to him in an effort to get something back? I don't think tagging him means he will be on the team.
Man we missed Snead this year, especially in the playoffs. Snead was a true alpha shutdown corner w/ the Chiefs, McDuffie got picked on quite a bit in the playoffs.
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:05 PM   #244
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Man we missed Snead this year, especially in the playoffs. Snead was a true alpha shutdown corner w/ the Chiefs, McDuffie got picked on quite a bit in the playoffs.
you know who else really missed SneEd this season?

the team that traded for him and paid him big money, since he was on IR.
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:08 PM   #245
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He’s done a pretty masterful job to this point of putting together a team to complement the Dorsey core.

But he hasn’t ever had to build the core himself.

As that Hall of Fame core that Dorsey left him continues to leave or age out, we’re going to start to find out if he’s truly an elite GM or just an ok one.

John Dorsey is so great that as soon as we let him go he immediately revamped the roster and created a perennial contender out of ....****checks notes****... absolutely nobody.
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:49 PM   #246
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It's not about an ability to change a view when new evidence emerges, but nice try shifting that goalpost.

It's about a history of being negative and wrong and continuing that streak here. Is this really hard for you to understand? Are you not the guy who claimed Veach was a fraud and should be fired? And also claimed he can't draft receivers? And now you're satisfied with what he did - and what you were wrong about - so you've pivoted to something else to bitch about?

This is another wild concept, but you have been negative and wrong on this forum more than you've been right. No?
My view was absolutely under no circumstances pay both Creed AND Smith. I realize you aren't responding to me but from my view obviously I am going to be disappointed. No goal posts being moved for me.

I said what I wanted them to do and they didn't do it. Me then chanting kumbaya would not be genuine.
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Trey smiths pff grade puts him middle of the road guard. Paying a mid tier guard the highest money in the nfl for a team that has no lt. I’m not sure what the plan is.

We almost have to go all out for josh Simmons trading up to whatever spot we think we can get him if he slides past 16-18 range

Trey smith is also a run blocker and we rarely run. We need pass blocking offensive linemen.
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Old 02-27-2025, 11:35 PM   #248
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I like what is happening early for our CHIEFS. Yes, Kelce coming back and a long term deal with Trey Smith is awesome! If they can lock up Thuney then all we need is a LT to complete the deal. We can't pursue Stanley - that would be ridiculous. So, move up in the draft to get the LT you desire - we are not getting Will Campbell so what about Josh Simmons or Josh Conerly Jr.? Do not know what the CHIEFS are willing to do if they need to move up but, I think they will do what they need to to get that coveted LT we need. Just .02
I really don't think they will do anything with Thuney. I mean, he's turning 33 this season. They have the youth to move on from him. I don't think it makes sense from a cap perspective. I also really don't think he's going to play much longer. Hell, he might hang them up after this one.

If they do anything with his contract, I'd expect them to add a void year and push some money off to a bonus that can spread out his hit to create cap space more so than I expect them to add more playing years.
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Old 02-28-2025, 12:38 AM   #249
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Didn't they tag Sneed last year? I was hoping he would rework that deal and stay with the team. He didn't. Maybe this is a means of holding on to him in an effort to get something back? I don't think tagging him means he will be on the team.
Tag and trade would be good even if it’s a 5th or something.
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Trey smiths pff grade puts him middle of the road guard. Paying a mid tier guard the highest money in the nfl for a team that has no lt. I’m not sure what the plan is.

We almost have to go all out for josh Simmons trading up to whatever spot we think we can get him if he slides past 16-18 range

Trey smith is also a run blocker and we rarely run. We need pass blocking offensive linemen.
It's an Orlando Brown Jr. situation except at OG. PFF had them rated very similar except Orlando was a smidge better in the passing game and Trey is the opposite. On the same note that's how we got Jawan Taylor and he's pretty terrible, worse than Orlando.

We're going to get Mahomes killed any way you slice it and pay a mint for average at best pass protection in the meantime. Brutal.
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Old 02-28-2025, 03:15 AM   #253
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Any of you guys consider that maybe the plan is to add a Jackson or Robinson and just put the best possible offensive line they possibly can in front of Mahomes next season?
Yes, that is probably the most realistic answer at LT… to sign Robinson or Jackson.

The Chiefs are probably going to have to overpay either player, relative to their talent… but both would provide something the Chiefs lacked last year… an actual left tackle playing the left tackle position.
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Old 02-28-2025, 05:27 AM   #254
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Yes, that is probably the most realistic answer at LT… to sign Robinson or Jackson.

The Chiefs are probably going to have to overpay either player, relative to their talent… but both would provide something the Chiefs lacked last year… an actual left tackle playing the left tackle position.
Well, that's what free agency IS.

You absolutely overpay, especially at premium positions, for NFL proven experience.

It's the cost of winning. We haven't been anywhere within striking distance of a true top tier LT to draft in almost a decade. When we WERE, we had a #1 overall manning the position.
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