Chiefs *****The Trey Smith Thread***** - Page 17

Dante84 · 04:09 PM

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Henry Louis "Trey" Smith III has gone through much adversity since high school but continues to battle. His mother, Dorsetta, passed away from congestive heart failure when he was at the University School at Jackson in Tennessee. While there, he excelled on the gridiron, winning the Mr. Football Award twice and garnering a first-team All-American and top-10 overall recruit rating nationally. The Volunteers kept him in-state, and he received second-team All-SEC, Freshman All-American, and SEC All-Freshman recognition as a 12-game starter (eight at right guard, four at left tackle). After the season, however, he was diagnosed with blood clots in his lungs. Smith fought through that malady to return for the 2018 campaign but had to stop after seven starts at left tackle as doctors believed the clots had returned. However, additional study of those test results showed that doctors might have actually seen scar tissue from the previous clots. Smith worked hard in the offseason, losing 40 pounds, and he garnered 2019 first-team All-SEC honors after moving inside to left guard, where he started 12 of 13 games played. He was a first-team all-conference selection again in 2020, starting all 11 games at left guard for the Volunteers. He received the Jason Witten Award for leadership on the field and community service off the field, as well as the Fritz Pollard Trophy for extraordinary courage and community values. He accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. -- by Chad Reuter

Overview
When putting together a guard built for an NFL power-based scheme, the blueprint would probably look like Smith. He's big, wide, strong, long and will flash an aggressive streak when he gets geared up. The lack of body control and technique he put on tape suggests it may be difficult for him to overcome his limited athleticism. An offseason of fundamentals work should help Smith become more efficient into first contact, which will really unlock his power at the point of attack. He's been one of the more talked about guard prospects over the last few years but might be in for a bumpy beginning as he adjusts to the athletes and technicians he will face as a pro.
Strengths

Elite size and length for the position.
Frame is broad and thick.
Very heavy-handed with plus upper-body strength.
Able to throw a sack of bricks at opponent when he punches.
Has physical potential to become dominant with better technique.
Drive power to turn base blocks out of the gap.
Can bang and cave his down-blocks.
Knock-back pop on both first and second levels.
Good job of finding targets on his short pulls.
Sets a very firm anchor against bull rushers.
Has faced off against a variety of current pro defenders during career.

Weaknesses

Lack of range shows up in run game and pass sets.
Long first step, causing him to overshoot his landmark and lose positioning.
Needs better footwork and hand clinch for improved sustain.
Will cheat secure block to save time getting up to linebacker on combos.
Plays with hitch and outside hands with pass punch.
Below-average body control and recovery potential.
Loses balance and positioning against rush counters.
Struggles to redirect weight after biting on fakes in pass pro.
Slide quickness to cut off the gaps is a concern.
Has dealt with blood clotting issues.

Sources Tell Us
"I guess you don't like big, aggressive guards, Lance? I know he has things to work on, but they can be coached up. The (history of blood clots) is a much bigger issue than anything on tape for me." -- Personnel executive for NFC team

I’m so happy for @TreySmith73 going to the @chiefs. Finally. Chiefs Kingdom got an awesome player and fantastic human!!

Check out his story on Big Boys Club Draft Academy pic.twitter.com/cPX48fA4jP
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) May 1, 2021

Jamie · 06-10-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

If Remmers is going to play RT what about Niang to guard?

We have so many decent options at IOL it probably makes more sense to leave him as the swing tackle. On the other hand Andy has always been a best 5 guy, so who knows.

Chris Meck · 06-10-2021, 07:29 PM

There's no way Remmers, a career back-up with 30" inch arms beats out Niang unless we just whiffed on the pick entirely.

mkp785 · 06-10-2021, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

There's no way Remmers, a career back-up with 30" inch arms beats out Niang unless we just whiffed on the pick entirely.

There's a happy medium between "we have to play this guy day 1, snap 1" and "holy hell this dude can't play at all he's Trezelle Jenkins 2.0"

Remmers is fine to stay at RT for a few weeks/months. Again, Niang hasn't played real football in over 2 years....

staylor26 · 06-10-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

There's no way Remmers, a career back-up with 30" inch arms beats out Niang unless we just whiffed on the pick entirely.

I think that a pretty ridiculous thing to say considering Niang hasn’t played football in almost 2 years and Remmers was pretty damn good at RT.

Also, Remmers has started at least 10 games the last 6 years. He’s hardly a career backup.

Obviously it would be nice for Niang to win the job before week 1, but it doesn’t mean anything about his future if he doesn’t.

kccrow · 06-10-2021, 09:14 PM

I'd have to think the starters out the gate will be

Brown Jr - Thuney - Blythe - Smith - Remmers

Of course, I want Humphrey and Niang in there but I don't think it's logical to expect a bunch of youth right away.

staylor26 · 06-10-2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd have to think the starters out the gate will be

Brown Jr - Thuney - Blythe - Smith - Remmers

Of course, I want Humphrey and Niang in there but I don't think it's logical to expect a bunch of youth right away.

Humphrey is already running with the starters for the majority of the time, if not all.

Mecca · 06-10-2021, 09:17 PM

Blythe is gonna get the RG job...

kccrow · 06-10-2021, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Humphrey is already running with the starters for the majority of the time, if not all.

Doesn't mean much yet, we'll see where it goes. He could get it and I'm definitely in his corner. I don't fathom them starting two rooks and I'm not all that sure where LDT is at right now, I haven't been following reports too closely nor seen any on him. If Humphrey at OC, I'd have to think it'll be Blythe or LDT at RG over Smith to get started.

Halfcan · 06-10-2021, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd have to think the starters out the gate will be

Brown Jr - Thuney - Blythe - Smith - Remmers

Of course, I want Humphrey and Niang in there but I don't think it's logical to expect a bunch of youth right away.

I have not heard a peep about Blythe. He has to learn the offense just the same as Humphrey. From every report about Creed- he is a beast.

Kiimo · 06-10-2021, 09:36 PM

I know it isn't wise to start three rookies but I'm optimistic that it won't be long until those three are dominating.

This line is going to be a beast for the next several years if Niang works out.

staylor26 · 06-10-2021, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Doesn't mean much yet, we'll see where it goes. He could get it and I'm definitely in his corner. I don't fathom them starting two rooks and I'm not all that sure where LDT is at right now, I haven't been following reports too closely nor seen any on him. If Humphrey at OC, I'd have to think it'll be Blythe or LDT at RG over Smith to get started.

Doesn’t mean much? It means a lot.

When Andy immediately plugs in a rookie like that this early, you can pretty much count on him being the starter barring injury or disaster play. He very rarely does that, and when he does, I don’t think there’s any going back. If Blythe had a legit chance to start, he would’ve at least had the job to start offseason workouts (like Remmers).

Humphrey is going to be your week 1 starter at C.

ChiefsCountry · 06-10-2021, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Blythe is gonna get the RG job...

Blythe or LDT. Smith takes over if injury or next season more than likely.

smithandrew051 · 06-10-2021, 09:45 PM

Might not be the case this year, but you gotta love the idea of potentially having all 5 starters under contract for a minimum of like 3 more years:

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Niang

htismaqe · 06-10-2021, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

O. city meant RG. Typo's happen. And he did mention Wylie and Allegretti along with the other candidates. Said we are okay at the position.

He said LG in more than one post. It wasn't a typo.

If anything, he was just talking about the wrong spot.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-10-2021, 10:17 PM

Well, all I can say is that if the Week 1 line is Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, LDT and Niang, this team is going to have an insane amount of depth.

While no one wants to see an offensive line comprised of five Andrew Wylie’s or five Nick Allegretti’s or five Mike Remmers, any of those guys could slide between Humphrey and Niang without a huge drop off. Remmers was solid at right tackle last year and Allegretti was probably their best offensive lineman towards the end of the year.

I never counted on Long to make it to Week 1, so his loss is no surprise, but I think they’ll be just fine without him.

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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Well, all I can say is that if the Week 1 line is Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, LDT and Niang, this team is going to have an insane amount of depth. While no one wants to see an offensive line comprised of five Andrew Wylie’s or five Nick Allegretti’s or five Mike Remmers, any of those guys could slide between Humphrey and Niang without a huge drop off. Remmers was solid at right tackle last year and Allegretti was probably their best offensive lineman towards the end of the year. I never counted on Long to make it to Week 1, so his loss is no surprise, but I think they’ll be just fine without him.
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