Chiefs Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling - Page 17

**Bowser** · 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM

I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.

Gary Cooper · 11-22-2023, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

Regarding the offense, if anyone says anything other than "it's the receivers" then they are just flat out wrong. Rice is the only one worth keeping next year, the rest are trash that needs to be taken out.

They had three drops on the last possession alone.

TEX · 11-22-2023, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Chiefs are 3 or 4 drops from being 10-0.

I trust Andy to get this fixed for the postseason.

True, and I hope you're right. But the line in the sand keeps moving backwards. Its week 11, and these WR's aren't fixed. In fact, coming off the bye, they looked as bad as they did week 1. It's not trending in the right direction at all, so much that it's not out of the question to think that it may not be fixable this season.

Chris Meck · 11-22-2023, 10:13 AM

I don't think Nagy's calling the plays, and if he is, he called a whale of a game Monday night.

I have concerns that perhaps his style is not as detail oriented as Bienemy's was. Maybe being less of a hard-ass is resulting in the huge amount of penalties and just general sloppiness. We've always seen it in spurts, but it's pretty much an identity marker this season.

I'm not saying it's all Nagy or anything, just that I have concerns.

TEX · 11-23-2023, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Well, Nagy is doing the same fine job that helped him become coach of the year in Chicago in 2018 and develop Mitch Trubisky's career...

But then, shortly afterwards, there was his last year in Chicago...

RunKC · 11-23-2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I don't think Nagy's calling the plays, and if he is, he called a whale of a game Monday night.

I have concerns that perhaps his style is not as detail oriented as Bienemy's was. Maybe being less of a hard-ass is resulting in the huge amount of penalties and just general sloppiness. We've always seen it in spurts, but it's pretty much an identity marker this season.

I'm not saying it's all Nagy or anything, just that I have concerns.

If that was Nagy's play calling on Monday then sign him up to be Andy's successor yesterday bc was one of the best designed/play called game of the Andy Reid era.

It was a near perfect game from the coaching staff. Pacheco smashing 1st downs on multiple 3rd/4th and shorts instead of cutesy bullshit from the shotgun. Enough running to open shit up. New wrinkles.

And they got WR's open several times. That's what is so goddamn frustrating. The coaches literally put on a perfect game and the receivers went and ****ed it all up.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 11-23-2023, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I can't blame coaching with the receivers making so many damn horrible plays, sorry.

MVS, Skyy and Rice cost us 13 points, at least. Hardman gave 7 to the other team.

Reid "let's them be themselves" and they're undisciplined. That's the difference between a Belichick tyrant coach and your best friend ever coach.

Either way both are HOF.

FloridaMan88 · 11-23-2023, 11:07 AM

Rich Gannon on NFL Radio yesterday indicated that he was certain, based on watching the game and Andy on the sideline that Nagy was calling the plays in the second half.

RunKC · 11-23-2023, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Rich Gannon on NFL Radio yesterday indicated that he was certain, based on watching the game and Andy on the sideline that Nagy was calling the plays in the second half.

This is actually a pro Nagy post

Hammock Parties · 11-23-2023, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

True, and I hope you're right. But the line in the sand keeps moving backwards. Its week 11, and these WR's aren't fixed. In fact, coming off the bye, they looked as bad as they did week 1. It's not trending in the right direction at all, so much that it's not out of the question to think that it may not be fixable this season.

It took the Chiefs 4 or 5 games to snap out of their funk in 2021.

I think by the time the Buffalo game is here we will be fine.

**Rausch** · 11-23-2023, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Rich Gannon on NFL Radio yesterday indicated that he was certain, based on watching the game and Andy on the sideline that Nagy was calling the plays in the second half.

Kollman said the same thing about the Dolphins game. 2nd half Naggy had the call sheet.

**Rausch** · 11-23-2023, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If that was Nagy's play calling on Monday then sign him up to be Andy's successor yesterday bc was one of the best designed/play called game of the Andy Reid era.

This. The play calling was excellent - the execution wasn't. Guys couldn't catch.

Sassy Squatch · 11-23-2023, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This is actually a pro Nagy post

No it's not. That's a damning indictment. We ran the ball twice in the entire 4th quarter. With how well our running game was performing and how poor the pass catching was all the way around that's coaching malpractice.

Sassy Squatch · 11-23-2023, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Kollman said the same thing about the Dolphins game. 2nd half Naggy had the call sheet.

Ooof. No wonder we've been putting up goose eggs in the second half. This worthless **** grinds our offense to a halt when he has the call sheet.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-23-2023, 01:09 PM

are we doing this game again where every time our offense succeeds Reid stole the play sheet and every time we struggle it’s because we insisted that eb/Nagy call plays? I’m pretty sure andy is going to use the highest rated primetime game against his old team and team that’s been gunning for our head to be the game where he decides to keep his hands off the offense

Frazod · 11-23-2023, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Ooof. No wonder we've been putting up goose eggs in the second half. This worthless **** grinds our offense to a halt when he has the call sheet.

Receivers who couldn't catch the clap in a whorehouse ground our offense to a halt.

10-29-2023, 06:50 PM
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $1561616	Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place. Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off. Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason? Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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11-22-2023, 10:13 AM	#243
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $364910	I don't think Nagy's calling the plays, and if he is, he called a whale of a game Monday night. I have concerns that perhaps his style is not as detail oriented as Bienemy's was. Maybe being less of a hard-ass is resulting in the huge amount of penalties and just general sloppiness. We've always seen it in spurts, but it's pretty much an identity marker this season. I'm not saying it's all Nagy or anything, just that I have concerns.
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11-23-2023, 11:07 AM	#247
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $1122906	Rich Gannon on NFL Radio yesterday indicated that he was certain, based on watching the game and Andy on the sideline that Nagy was calling the plays in the second half.
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11-23-2023, 01:09 PM	#254
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $74497	are we doing this game again where every time our offense succeeds Reid stole the play sheet and every time we struggle it’s because we insisted that eb/Nagy call plays? I’m pretty sure andy is going to use the highest rated primetime game against his old team and team that’s been gunning for our head to be the game where he decides to keep his hands off the offense
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