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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:11 PM   #2521
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MU fans - do you see this as a good sign or bad sign that the meeting has lasted so long?
Hell if I know. I would think that if they were staying in the BIG XII, that the meeting would have been shorter, since there is less to debate.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:12 PM   #2522
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If it's been this long, he's working out a deal to move the school to a new place. There would be more to work out, more things to discuss and so on...

If MU was staying.....it wouldn't last this long. JMO
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:13 PM   #2523
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Hell if I know. I would think that if they were staying in the BIG XII, that the meeting would have been shorter, since there is less to debate.

I take it as they can't get to an agreement either way so they are still debating it. But it could also mean that they found a kick ass free porn site and they are just wasting time.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:13 PM   #2524
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KC is a KU town during college basketball season. It wins the "t-shirt" fan battle because it is the program that has had the most success.

There are more MU football fans in KC than KU football fans.

There are more "t-shirt" Mizzou football fans than "t-shirt" KU football fans, but because KU basketball is an elite program, it has more casual fans than Missouri football.

A school that has fewer than 40k fans show up for its homecoming game shouldn't be saying s*it about owning a market that is a mere 40 minutes away.

Missouri owns the KC market during the season conferences care about.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:15 PM   #2525
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:16 PM   #2526
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Although some outlets will still obviously talk MU you will have to admit that the focus in the KC area will still be with the Big 12.

The SEC is so completely foreign in geography and culture that I can't really see Petro breaking down Auburn-Ole Miss in anticipation of next weeks matchup with Mizzou.

KK won't talk about them simply out of spite.

That's just my opinion though.
Yeah, ISU versus KU football breakdown makes for riveting radio.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:29 PM   #2527
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KK's Analogy....

"It's like high school. Mizzou could be the captain of the soccer team, or just an average starter on the football team. Apparently they just want to hang out with the cool kids."
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:33 PM   #2528
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:35 PM   #2529
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KK's Analogy....

"It's like high school. Mizzou could be the captain of the soccer team, or just an average starter on the football team. Apparently they just want to hang out with the cool kids."
He really is going to have to do some work if MU goes to the SEC, I don't care what he says he WILL have to cover the SEC or he will be off the air.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:35 PM   #2530
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RT @KegsnEggs: I'm hoping that Missouri will give us a LOST-like finish and they'll announce they were never in the Big 12 to begin with.
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RT @KegsnEggs: I'm hoping that Missouri will give us a LOST-like finish and they'll announce they were never in the Big 12 to begin with.
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I take it as they can't get to an agreement either way so they are still debating it. But it could also mean that they found a kick ass free porn site and they are just wasting time.
Watching the Cards game.
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