Other Sports 2014-2015 NBA regular season thread. - Page 167

Al Bundy · 05:00 PM

I will update this when the schedule is announced in a couple of weeks, but I will open with the new uniforms for the Charlotte Hornets below.

Introducing the brand new Charlotte #HornetsUnis! http://t.co/MgHy2DcOTX pic.twitter.com/w59MlUvRgd
— Charlotte Hornets (@hornets) June 19, 2014

thabear04 · 07-22-2014, 12:29 PM

Bulls are in the mix for Love again. If they give up Gibson,Butler and someone else.

Pitt Gorilla · 07-22-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04

Bulls are in the mix for Love again. If they give up Gibson,Butler and someone else.

Good. I'm a Cleveland fan, but screw Cleveland Fan. You don't want love and perhaps Chicago can help you with that. I would never cheer against the cavs, but this forum strongly makes me question that position.

ChiefsCountry · 07-22-2014, 12:43 PM

Why in the hell would Bulls need Love with Noah and Gasol?

saphojunkie · 07-22-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Why in the hell would Bulls need Love with Noah and Gasol?

Because they were last in the league in scoring? And first in the league in opponents' scoring?

The Bulls getting involved in this trade completely ****s over Cleveland. Now you absolutely have to do whatever it takes to secure Love. Because if he goes to Chicago... you might not make it out of the eastern conference.

Pitt Gorilla · 07-22-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Why in the hell would Bulls need Love with Noah and Gasol?

Because that frontline is badass. They might be even better passers than the spurs.

**RealSNR** · 07-22-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Why in the hell would Bulls need Love with Noah and Gasol?

Don't know, but they're talking about it now

Shit or get off the pot, Cleveland

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...ove-trade-push

-King- · 07-22-2014, 02:19 PM

Don't know why the Bulls are even trying. I've heard it here that Love is only willing to sign a long term deal with Cleveland.

**RealSNR** · 07-22-2014, 02:31 PM

Denver Nuggets have been in this, too.

But RustShack is always right! Cleveland holds all the cards! Minnesota is weak! They should trade Love for Anthony Bennett straight up no questions asked and be THANKFUL for the ****ing opportunity!

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...185536749.html

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The Cleveland Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts through trades that could be a part of a package with Minnesota to acquire All-Star forward Kevin Love, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Cleveland's discussions with Minnesota have escalated with the Cavaliers' willingness to include No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins in the deal, sources said. Without Wiggins, there's no other combination of Cleveland players and picks that would interest Minnesota. Once Wiggins signs his rookie contract, a trade involving him can't be formally completed for 30 days.

The Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts through trades that could be part of a package for Love, allowing the Cavaliers to deliver players that could be released immediately upon completion of a deal, sources said. This would give Minnesota salary-cap relief as part of a trade.

The Denver Nuggets have remained a strong contender for Love, offering a package that sources said has been the most appealing to Minnesota outside of the Cavaliers and a possible Golden State deal including Klay Thompson. So far, the Warriors have kept Thompson out of their offer to Minnesota.

Minnesota wants a package for Love to include guard J.J. Barea, who has $4.5 million left on his expiring deal – and possibly guard Kevin Martin, who has three years and $21 million left. As part of a larger deal, the Cavaliers want to include 2013 No. 1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and a future No. 1 pick for Love.

The Cavaliers have been offering future first-round picks for an experienced center, league sources said.

Love has demanded a trade before the start of next season, threatening to opt-out of his contract in July 2015 to sign elsewhere as a free agent.

ChiefsCountry · 07-22-2014, 02:36 PM

Wonder what Denver is offering? Fairied, Gallinari, Chandler?

KC native · 07-22-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Because that frontline is badass. They might be even better passers than the spurs.

lol no.

-King- · 07-22-2014, 03:05 PM

Report: Cavaliers trying to acquire other players to put in Kevin Love trade
Kurt Helin Jul 22, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT

The deal reportedly on the table from Cleveland for Kevin Love is No. 1 picks Andrew Wiggins, last year’s No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett (who looked good at Summer League) plus one or two first round picks.

If that was enough the deal would be done. Minnesota is trying to leverage Cleveland with Chicago and maybe Golden State (although the Warriors are not playing along) to get as much as they can.

Cleveland is looking around the league to get more parts to put in a deal, specifically non-guaranteed contracts, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are pursuing trade components to include as part of a package with Minnesota to acquire All-Star forward Kevin Love, league sources told Yahoo Sports….

The Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts that could be a part of a package for Love, allowing the Cavaliers to deliver players that could be released immediately upon completion of a deal, sources said. This would give Minnesota salary-cap relief as part of a trade.

Those other pieces are likely to add Kevin Martin to the deal. Minnesota has wanted to dump Martin and his salary (three years, $21.3 million left on his deal) in any Love deal, and frankly Martin could provide some shooting the Cavs could use. To balance that out the Cavs need some non-guaranteed contracts.

Cleveland is apparently confident that they are close and can land a deal. That is as much about the lack of other great options out there for Minnesota — Chicago wants in with a deal based around Taj Gibson, and Denver is still out there as the best of the bad options for Minnesota (and that deal will be there, no reason for Minnesota to rush and take any of them).

The other part of all this: Will Kevin Love opt in for Cleveland? It’s what Chris Paul did for the Clippers, it is not something Dwight Howard did for the Lakers. Yes, Love reportedly would want to stay with LeBron in Cleveland, but situations and attitudes can change and the Cavs would be wise to get that one extra year guaranteed (plus Love could become a free agent in 2016 when the max salary will skyrocket with the new TV deal).

Still, it feels like a deal with get done with the Cavaliers. Eventually.

Signals emanating from Cleveland are clear that Cavs think they'll ultimately construct a trade framework Minnesota will accept for KLove
— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 22, 2014

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...in-love-trade/

chiefzilla1501 · 07-22-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Report: Cavaliers trying to acquire other players to put in Kevin Love trade
Kurt Helin Jul 22, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT

The deal reportedly on the table from Cleveland for Kevin Love is No. 1 picks Andrew Wiggins, last year’s No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett (who looked good at Summer League) plus one or two first round picks.

If that was enough the deal would be done. Minnesota is trying to leverage Cleveland with Chicago and maybe Golden State (although the Warriors are not playing along) to get as much as they can.

Cleveland is looking around the league to get more parts to put in a deal, specifically non-guaranteed contracts, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are pursuing trade components to include as part of a package with Minnesota to acquire All-Star forward Kevin Love, league sources told Yahoo Sports….

The Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts that could be a part of a package for Love, allowing the Cavaliers to deliver players that could be released immediately upon completion of a deal, sources said. This would give Minnesota salary-cap relief as part of a trade.

Those other pieces are likely to add Kevin Martin to the deal. Minnesota has wanted to dump Martin and his salary (three years, $21.3 million left on his deal) in any Love deal, and frankly Martin could provide some shooting the Cavs could use. To balance that out the Cavs need some non-guaranteed contracts.

Cleveland is apparently confident that they are close and can land a deal. That is as much about the lack of other great options out there for Minnesota — Chicago wants in with a deal based around Taj Gibson, and Denver is still out there as the best of the bad options for Minnesota (and that deal will be there, no reason for Minnesota to rush and take any of them).

The other part of all this: Will Kevin Love opt in for Cleveland? It’s what Chris Paul did for the Clippers, it is not something Dwight Howard did for the Lakers. Yes, Love reportedly would want to stay with LeBron in Cleveland, but situations and attitudes can change and the Cavs would be wise to get that one extra year guaranteed (plus Love could become a free agent in 2016 when the max salary will skyrocket with the new TV deal).

Still, it feels like a deal with get done with the Cavaliers. Eventually.

Signals emanating from Cleveland are clear that Cavs think they'll ultimately construct a trade framework Minnesota will accept for KLove
— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 22, 2014

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...in-love-trade/

This is why Cleveland can't have nice things. Love and Kevin Martin. And Bennett, Wiggins + pick isn't enough? They must be ****ing joking. Two guys who are atrocious at defense worth a combined $27M to add to a horrible defensive team.

Let's say this straight out... if Bennett + Wiggins are both good, this is a bad trade. If one of them becomes excellent, it's a horrible trade. If both become excellent or one becomes an all star, this is highway robbery. Knowing Cleveland, this is most definitely going to happen if they're traded.

saphojunkie · 07-22-2014, 03:33 PM

Cleveland probably doesn't have the stones to call Minnesota's bluff. They could trade Bennett + waiters + a first rounder for a ton of guys that would help their team and still clear space for Love in the offseason.

I have no idea why Love would ever opt in for any other team - not before being a true free agent and seeing what the landscape looks like.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-22-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Cleveland probably doesn't have the stones to call Minnesota's bluff. They could trade Bennett + waiters + a first rounder for a ton of guys that would help their team and still clear space for Love in the offseason.

I have no idea why Love would ever opt in for any other team - not before being a true free agent and seeing what the landscape looks like.

Absolutely. None of this makes sense. All of a sudden, a day after it's announced Wiggins is close to signing, all these teams enter the mix completely out of nowhere? Hmm....

The Cavs' best move is to wait until midseason and at least see what they have in Wiggins and Bennett. Period.

**RealSNR** · 07-22-2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Cleveland probably doesn't have the stones to call Minnesota's bluff. They could trade Bennett + waiters + a first rounder for a ton of guys that would help their team and still clear space for Love in the offseason.

I have no idea why Love would ever opt in for any other team - not before being a true free agent and seeing what the landscape looks like.

HE'S NOT GOING TO FREE AGENCY! **** YOU! WE'RE TRADING HIM AND GETTING SHIT BACK!

CLEVELAND ISN'T SIGNING HIM! CONTRARY TO HOW THE LAST 4 DRAFTS HAVE GONE, THE UNIVERSE DOESN'T EXIST SOLELY TO MAKE SHIT WORK FOR THE ****ING CAVALIERS

YOU BUY NOW OR GET RAPED!

06-19-2014, 05:47 PM
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07-22-2014, 12:29 PM	#2491
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07-22-2014, 12:43 PM	#2493
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07-22-2014, 02:36 PM	#2499
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1331248	Wonder what Denver is offering? Fairied, Gallinari, Chandler?
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07-22-2014, 03:05 PM	#2501
-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $-1164257	Report: Cavaliers trying to acquire other players to put in Kevin Love trade Kurt Helin Jul 22, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT The deal reportedly on the table from Cleveland for Kevin Love is No. 1 picks Andrew Wiggins, last year’s No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett (who looked good at Summer League) plus one or two first round picks. If that was enough the deal would be done. Minnesota is trying to leverage Cleveland with Chicago and maybe Golden State (although the Warriors are not playing along) to get as much as they can. Cleveland is looking around the league to get more parts to put in a deal, specifically non-guaranteed contracts, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. The Cleveland Cavaliers are pursuing trade components to include as part of a package with Minnesota to acquire All-Star forward Kevin Love, league sources told Yahoo Sports…. The Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts that could be a part of a package for Love, allowing the Cavaliers to deliver players that could be released immediately upon completion of a deal, sources said. This would give Minnesota salary-cap relief as part of a trade. Those other pieces are likely to add Kevin Martin to the deal. Minnesota has wanted to dump Martin and his salary (three years, $21.3 million left on his deal) in any Love deal, and frankly Martin could provide some shooting the Cavs could use. To balance that out the Cavs need some non-guaranteed contracts. Cleveland is apparently confident that they are close and can land a deal. That is as much about the lack of other great options out there for Minnesota — Chicago wants in with a deal based around Taj Gibson, and Denver is still out there as the best of the bad options for Minnesota (and that deal will be there, no reason for Minnesota to rush and take any of them). The other part of all this: Will Kevin Love opt in for Cleveland? It’s what Chris Paul did for the Clippers, it is not something Dwight Howard did for the Lakers. Yes, Love reportedly would want to stay with LeBron in Cleveland, but situations and attitudes can change and the Cavs would be wise to get that one extra year guaranteed (plus Love could become a free agent in 2016 when the max salary will skyrocket with the new TV deal). Still, it feels like a deal with get done with the Cavaliers. Eventually. Signals emanating from Cleveland are clear that Cavs think they'll ultimately construct a trade framework Minnesota will accept for KLove — Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 22, 2014 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...in-love-trade/ __________________ 🏁
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07-22-2014, 03:33 PM	#2503
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2396550	Cleveland probably doesn't have the stones to call Minnesota's bluff. They could trade Bennett + waiters + a first rounder for a ton of guys that would help their team and still clear space for Love in the offseason. I have no idea why Love would ever opt in for any other team - not before being a true free agent and seeing what the landscape looks like.
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