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**KcMizzou** · 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM

Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)

**SAUTO** · 08-29-2012, 09:01 PM

They are ruining it.

Boxing all over again IMO.

**** Dana white.
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Sorter · 08-29-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

They are ruining it.

Boxing all over again IMO.

**** Dana white.
Posted via Mobile Device

Not sure I'd jump to that extreme. Dana is Dana. I.e. power hungry, won't let anyone push him around (minus Lorenzo/Frank) and wants to establish precedents imo. He's pissed off fromt he neg. press the UFC has had with Greg's camp via the "running" and with this, he went over the edge. Additionally, Jones' DUI charge after a Bud Light sponsorship didn't help. Really, Dana seems to just be pissed off. Still hasn't sunk to boxing, i.e. fixing matches for the betterment of the UFC and allowing constant avoidance of opponents in the same weight class.

Luke Warm · 08-31-2012, 08:43 AM

Word is Koch injured, won't fight Aldo at 153. Edgar to fight Aldo.

ragedogg69 · 08-31-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

This is not accurate, fighters are independent contractors and don't get paid unless they fight. Some have sponsorship deals that pay them a monthly check but that's only the top tier guys.

According to Nevada State Athletic Commision rules, the UFC is required to pay the fighter due to the short notice.

I will say I am more excited to see Aldo/Edgar fight than Aldo/Koch. I cant explain why?

ragedogg69 · 08-31-2012, 03:34 PM

since I know it will be asked:

Under NAC 467.259, the UFC seems to be obligated to reimburse all of those fighters under their bout agreements…

Chief_in_Commander · 08-31-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I'm not completely wrong about the main event. White has changed the main event before. It CAN be done. It was White's fault for not putting another match on that card that was half way worth a crap. Would they lose money? Most likely they would. But you're talking about door sales to a show that houses 15,000 people. Most of the money comes from the millions of PPV buys.

You don't go in with a gameplan against one fighter, scrap everything and fight a top fighter in the world on virtually no notice when a title belt and endorsement deals are on the line.

At this level, if you're not prepared, not only do you lose, you get knocked the **** out. Bones' camp is 100000% right in this case. There's nothing wrong w/ Bones looking out for himself.

Yeah it can be done. But there are only so many fighters that can headline an event and none were on this card. You seriously believe he didn't try everything in his power to find ANYONE with draw to fill in? For the first time there was NOBODY to fill in, injuries are a part of it. Doesn't make Dana some moron or incompetent, he doesn't control injuries. Your fix is to "Put somebody else in" which, again, is completely stupid.

He already has endorsement deals, he doesn't "Win" them, so again your wrong. I do see where Jones is coming from, but his camp is not 10000% right at all. You are the champ and should defend your belt against anybody that steps up. Only declined because he swore he wouldnt let Sonnen "talk" his way to title and his ego got in the way. Virtually everyone in the UFC has weighed in on this on twitter or some other way and the overwhelming majority is "I would of taken the fight", so you are in the minority for your stance.

To the game plan part, that is the most over-rated part of this. Listen to top level guys or girls even (see Ronda Rousey) who say they don't even use gameplans because you never know how the opponent is going to attack you. They train their aspects, work on some strengths of opponent. Its not like Chael is some complex fighter either, he is a wrestler, you don't think Jones would have been working on his wrestling? Totally asinine to use "gameplan" as an excuse. Many, many UFC fighters have taken fights on short notice and won.

ArrowheadHawk · 09-22-2012, 08:21 PM

UFC 152 is on. First fight was impressive by Swanson. Should be a good card.

aj jones · 09-22-2012, 09:06 PM

Anyone got a stream?

ArrowheadHawk · 09-22-2012, 10:01 PM

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1424...s-belfort.html

Sorry it's late. Main event has yet to start though.

aj jones · 09-22-2012, 10:13 PM

Thx for some reason it says I can't wach it on my smartphone

ArrowheadHawk · 09-22-2012, 10:42 PM

Jones finishes him with a submission. Dude is 25 years old and might already be the best.

aj jones · 09-22-2012, 10:46 PM

Bones will destroy sonnen if they fight.

Pants · 09-22-2012, 10:47 PM

I don't understand how Jones' arm didn't break there. Pretty good card, this one.

ArrowheadHawk · 09-22-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I don't understand how Jones' arm didn't break there. Pretty good card, this one.

That shit is gonna hurt tomorrow, if it doesn't already tonight.

Pants · 09-22-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

That shit is gonna hurt tomorrow, if it doesn't already tonight.

He said his arm is numb. That's probably a way worse sign than pain, lol.

07-08-2010, 08:18 PM
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	*The Official MMA Thread* Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here. (Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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08-29-2012, 09:01 PM	#2476
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08-31-2012, 08:43 AM	#2478
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08-31-2012, 03:34 PM	#2480
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09-22-2012, 08:21 PM	#2482
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7844961	UFC 152 is on. First fight was impressive by Swanson. Should be a good card.
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09-22-2012, 09:06 PM	#2483
aj jones Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Anyone got a stream?
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09-22-2012, 10:01 PM	#2484
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7844961	http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1424...s-belfort.html Sorry it's late. Main event has yet to start though.
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09-22-2012, 10:13 PM	#2485
aj jones Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Thx for some reason it says I can't wach it on my smartphone
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09-22-2012, 10:42 PM	#2486
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7844961	Jones finishes him with a submission. Dude is 25 years old and might already be the best.
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09-22-2012, 10:46 PM	#2487
aj jones Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Bones will destroy sonnen if they fight.
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09-22-2012, 10:47 PM	#2488
Pants Time Keeps On Slipping Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $4919900	I don't understand how Jones' arm didn't break there. Pretty good card, this one. __________________ "Turn the channel to 26!"
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