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Quesadilla Joe · 04-16-2018, 12:00 PM

Kareem Hunt was two totally different guys last year. The first guy racked up a bunch of big plays because of scheme/trickery. The second guy was a solid, CJ Anderson-like RB.

Kareem Hunt first 5 games
Yards: 609
Yards per carry: 6.2
Yards per game: 121.8
Total TD's: 6
Total TD's per game: 1.2
# of 100+ yard games: 4

Kareem Hunt last 11 games
Yards: 718
Yards per carry: 4.1
Yards per game: 65.2
Total TD's: 5
Total TD's per game: .45
# of 100+ yard games: 2

CJ Anderson career average
Yards per carry: 4.4
Yards per game: 52.6 (Denver was a RBBC team for most of his time in Denver)
Total TD's per game: .41

**ptlyon** · 04-16-2018, 12:02 PM

Here's the scheme and trickery excuse again

Sassy Squatch · 04-16-2018, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Here's the scheme and trickery excuse again

Kareem Hunt led the league with 89 broken tackles. LeBron Bell was 2nd with 79. But it was all scheme and trickeration, according to Knowmo.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-16-2018, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Kareem Hunt was two totally different guys last year. The first guy racked up a bunch of big plays because of scheme/trickery. The second guy was a solid, CJ Anderson-like RB.

Kareem Hunt first 5 games
Yards: 609
Yards per carry: 6.2
Yards per game: 121.8
Total TD's: 6
Total TD's per game: 1.2
# of 100+ yard games: 4

Kareem Hunt last 11 games
Yards: 718
Yards per carry: 4.1
Yards per game: 65.2
Total TD's: 5
Total TD's per game: .45
# of 100+ yard games: 2

CJ Anderson career average
Yards per carry: 4.4
Yards per game: 52.6 (Denver was a RBBC team for most of his time in Denver because CJ Anderson couldn't be trusted )
Total TD's per game: .41

Fixed

TomBarndtsTwin · 04-16-2018, 12:25 PM

He 'tricked' them into allowing him to break those tackles. Oh . . . . and Tyreek Hill is still a 'gadget' player.

As far as the stats thing with Kareem Hunt, this has been discussed and posted in this very thread (read back a ways if you really want to find it).

When Kareem got opportunities (i.e. carries), he was successful. Hunt started the season strong and he finished the season strong. The dip in the middle part of the season coincided with his carries being dramatically reduced. Maybe that was on purpose by Andy as they thought he might wear down over the course of his first NFL season and wanted to keep him fresh down the stretch? I don't know. But the evidence (stats) would suggest that when he's given 17+ carries a game, he is very effective (thus the NFL's leading rusher last year).

I'm not trying to say he's Walter Payton or something, but his numbers would suggest he's already among the Top 5 RB's in the league and anyone who tries to make a valid comparison between him and CJ Anderson is either delusional, trolling or just a complete ****ing idiot.

I'll leave it to those here to decide just which one you (KnowMo) are . . . . . .

**jjchieffan** · 04-16-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Here's the scheme and trickery excuse again

That boy has excuses for everything. I've never seen anyone quite like him. It's pretty entertaining though. He always makes me laugh with his ridiculous excuses The Donks had their starters all out, then the starters weren't trying. Donald Stephenson was going to better in Dungver because of better coaching. Hill is s gadget player, Hunt was just taking advantage of trickery and scheme, Semen just needed better linemen to protect him. The list goes on and on.

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**ptlyon** · 04-16-2018, 12:39 PM

It's really just trolling, but it is A+ Academy Award trolling

**jjchieffan** · 04-16-2018, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon

It's really just trolling, but it is A+ Academy Award trolling

He should give lessons to his fellow Donk fans. Especially TombstonegivesBJ. That guy has the weakest smack of them all. Kramzitinhisrectum sucks too. But based on his stupidity, I'm pretty sure that he's a multiple of SDH. Both of them are so dumb that they couldn't count to 3 if you spotted them the 1 and the 2. Good luck teaching them how to troll. It's a wonder they know how to breathe.

Mother****erJones · 04-16-2018, 12:58 PM

Scheming and trickery. No douchebag, Hunts just great. How do you explain his TD run in demver?

Sassy Squatch · 04-16-2018, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Scheming and trickery. No douchebag, Hunts just great. How do you explain his TD run in demver?

Because Talib wasn't trying. Still doesn't explain what the front 7 was doing, but that's his excuse.

Quesadilla Joe · 04-16-2018, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Scheming and trickery. No douchebag, Hunts just great. How do you explain his TD run in demver?

Remember what happened when Denver's D was actually trying?

Carries: 22
Yards: 46
YPC: 2.1
TD's: 0

**ptlyon** · 04-16-2018, 01:09 PM

If they woulda tried one more play...

Quesadilla Joe · 04-16-2018, 01:10 PM

Interesting that three of Gil Brandt's top 4 players are QB's...

Spoiler!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...2018-nfl-draft

Sassy Squatch · 04-16-2018, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Remember what happened when Denver's D was actually trying?

Carries: 22
Yards: 46
YPC: 2.1
TD's: 0

Remember when Denver kept the coach around that allowed the team to get so complacent and lazy they stopped trying?

**New World Order** · 04-16-2018, 01:17 PM

So what Knowmo is saying is that at Hunt’s worst he’s comparable to CJ Anderson?

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	Kareem Hunt was two totally different guys last year. The first guy racked up a bunch of big plays because of scheme/trickery. The second guy was a solid, CJ Anderson-like RB. Kareem Hunt first 5 games Yards: 609 Yards per carry: 6.2 Yards per game: 121.8 Total TD's: 6 Total TD's per game: 1.2 # of 100+ yard games: 4 Kareem Hunt last 11 games Yards: 718 Yards per carry: 4.1 Yards per game: 65.2 Total TD's: 5 Total TD's per game: .45 # of 100+ yard games: 2 CJ Anderson career average Yards per carry: 4.4 Yards per game: 52.6 (Denver was a RBBC team for most of his time in Denver) Total TD's per game: .41
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04-16-2018, 12:25 PM	#24785
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $3679883	He 'tricked' them into allowing him to break those tackles. Oh . . . . and Tyreek Hill is still a 'gadget' player. As far as the stats thing with Kareem Hunt, this has been discussed and posted in this very thread (read back a ways if you really want to find it). When Kareem got opportunities (i.e. carries), he was successful. Hunt started the season strong and he finished the season strong. The dip in the middle part of the season coincided with his carries being dramatically reduced. Maybe that was on purpose by Andy as they thought he might wear down over the course of his first NFL season and wanted to keep him fresh down the stretch? I don't know. But the evidence (stats) would suggest that when he's given 17+ carries a game, he is very effective (thus the NFL's leading rusher last year). I'm not trying to say he's Walter Payton or something, but his numbers would suggest he's already among the Top 5 RB's in the league and anyone who tries to make a valid comparison between him and CJ Anderson is either delusional, trolling or just a complete ****ing idiot. I'll leave it to those here to decide just which one you (KnowMo) are . . . . . .
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04-16-2018, 01:17 PM	#24795
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