Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 163 of 330 « First 63113153159160161162 163 164165166167173213263 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
TLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Casino cash: $-640000
Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
Posts: 41,255
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:06 PM   #2431
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
back to defense-and I'm not sure what the plan is...but-
If you cut Houston...well, I think you have to. Right? I mean it doesn't make sense not to.

And you tag Ford to play him. You're keeping one of your premier pass rushers. You're transferring most of Houston's salary to Ford, essentially, with like $4 million left over.

You need a SAM, you need a veteran safety. You really should have an older veteran type DE for depth and rotational purposes. You need at least one CB.

You need to draft CB's, a S, and an Edge/DE. A corner may need to be a day one starter.
What are the odds that Houston would restructure and could make the transition to a rushing DE ala Neil Smith?
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:07 PM   #2432
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
If Houston wouldn't restructure, where could he go to make the money he would want and still be able to realistically compete for a ring?
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:10 PM   #2433
RunKC RunKC is online now
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $309611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halfcan View Post
Exactly, and what happened. Teams immediately shut down the run and Mahomes was throwing again to squeak out a win.
Offense went into a shell in the second half bc Andy was playing not to lose.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,521
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:38 PM   #2434
saphojunkie saphojunkie is offline
MVP
 
saphojunkie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Casino cash: $3526550
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
I think so too, but if Houston's really not going to restructure, then you just can't pay him $21 million. You just can't.

I like him better than Ford as I think he's a much more complete player, but I don't see how it happens.
I agree he is a way better fit than Ford. However, I do think he restructures, because it nets him the most money. Well, not restructuring, but extending, and converting salary to bonus.

Also, keep in mind that you aren't paying Houston $21M by keeping him. You're on the hook for $7M no matter what. The amount you are looking at saving vs spending is $14M. That's all you can save. Do you think there is another player on the free market you can get who will only cost $14M this year and has Houston's ability?
Posts: 12,813
saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.saphojunkie is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:39 PM   #2435
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1094064
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie View Post
I agree he is a way better fit than Ford. However, I do think he restructures, because it nets him the most money. Well, not restructuring, but extending, and converting salary to bonus.

Also, keep in mind that you aren't paying Houston $21M by keeping him. You're on the hook for $7M no matter what. The amount you are looking at saving vs spending is $14M. That's all you can save. Do you think there is another player on the free market you can get who will only cost $14M this year and has Houston's ability?
Probably not.

But devils advocate, with that money I could potentially get 2 or 3 players and make up that value that way.
Posts: 82,883
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:42 PM   #2436
htismaqe htismaqe is online now
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $9749900
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Probably not.

But devils advocate, with that money I could potentially get 2 or 3 players and make up that value that way.
You could also tag and trade Ford, let his injury history be someone else's problem, retain Houston, AND get a couple of extra draft picks.

Restructure Houston and go ahead and get those 2 or 3 FA's you wanted.

Getting rid of Ford could realistically net you 4-5 new faces next year. Getting rid of Houston just a couple.
Posts: 100,274
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:43 PM   #2437
jjchieffan jjchieffan is offline
Supporter
 
jjchieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highlandville, MO
Casino cash: $1732248
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie View Post
I agree he is a way better fit than Ford. However, I do think he restructures, because it nets him the most money. Well, not restructuring, but extending, and converting salary to bonus.

Also, keep in mind that you aren't paying Houston $21M by keeping him. You're on the hook for $7M no matter what. The amount you are looking at saving vs spending is $14M. That's all you can save. Do you think there is another player on the free market you can get who will only cost $14M this year and has Houston's ability?
Certainly you can. At least if you're talking cap hit. You can sign anyone and keep the first year cap low by making it up in a signing bonus. And since you specifically said, this year, that makes it doable. You could pay someone a $1 million base salary, $20 million signing bonus on a 4 year deal and only have a $6 million cap hit this year, but the player is getting $21 million.
Posts: 12,928
jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:53 PM   #2438
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1094064
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
You could also tag and trade Ford, let his injury history be someone else's problem, retain Houston, AND get a couple of extra draft picks.

Restructure Houston and go ahead and get those 2 or 3 FA's you wanted.

Getting rid of Ford could realistically net you 4-5 new faces next year. Getting rid of Houston just a couple.
Pretty much.

I'm guessing they think or see Ford as a better player and are ready to move on from Houston and if that's the case, well, I guess it is what it is.
Posts: 82,883
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:54 PM   #2439
htismaqe htismaqe is online now
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $9749900
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Pretty much.

I'm guessing they think or see Ford as a better player and are ready to move on from Houston and if that's the case, well, I guess it is what it is.
It's just discouraging, especially after what just happened with Berry. Makes one wonder if they really know what they're doing on that side of the ball.
Posts: 100,274
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:55 PM   #2440
New World Order New World Order is offline
Choco Favre
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Casino cash: $714765
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate View Post
If Houston wouldn't restructure, where could he go to make the money he would want and still be able to realistically compete for a ring?
Indy could afford him
Posts: 30,665
New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:55 PM   #2441
htismaqe htismaqe is online now
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $9749900
And quite frankly, they're going to have to replace Ford either this year or next. They can't give him a long-term contract after tagging him, that would be monumentally stupid.

If Ford is indispensable and can't be replaced now, nothing is going to change next year either. What confidence should we have that they can actually build a Super Bowl defense?
Posts: 100,274
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:56 PM   #2442
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1094064
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
It's just discouraging, especially after what just happened with Berry. Makes one wonder if they really know what they're doing on that side of the ball.
I think Ford IS currently a better player than Houston. I think Houston is more well rounded but at this point, he's probably not elite at any one thing.
Posts: 82,883
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:57 PM   #2443
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1094064
If you tag Ford, you pretty much have to draft someone fairly early to replace him next year.
Posts: 82,883
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:57 PM   #2444
htismaqe htismaqe is online now
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $9749900
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
I think Ford IS currently a better player than Houston. I think Houston is more well rounded but at this point, he's probably not elite at any one thing.
The thing is, you could get probably 2 guys for Houston. Can you replace him with that? It's probably 50/50.

If you could get 4 guys for Ford and not be able to replace him? They'r done, there's no hope. If they can't get one 10-sack guy in 4 spots, their clueless.
Posts: 100,274
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2019, 02:58 PM   #2445
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order View Post
Indy could afford him
Check! Thanks. That could be a problem, potentially.
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 163 of 330 « First 63113153159160161162 163 164165166167173213263 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:49 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.