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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:30 PM   #24301
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Broncos have very few high impact players on rookie contracts compared to veterans being overpaid.

I’m fine with them continuing that trend. That’s why their one and only real move in FA was signing a mediocre backup QB.
I was happy to have Dorsey drafting all those "starters" and watching them choke in the playoffs. Hope Veech continues that trend with pmINT at the helm as he dumps all the guys Dorsey brought in. All those years I heard loss spouting off about Dorsey's great drafts and he has one weak WC win vs a terrible Texans team to show for it.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:31 PM   #24302
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Yeah, KC is getting a discount right now with Hill and Hunt, and Watkins' money is just deferred til next year. Doesn't mean they're a better team than they were last year though.
So you're argument is KC's offense is NOT better with Watkins, then say Chris Conley, Jehu Chesson, etc., or whoever else you wanna plug in there?

And as far as next year (with Watkins 19 mil. cap hit), KC is on the hook for $35 mil. for their skill position offensive players.

Denver will be paying that same group $56 mil. in 2019.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:33 PM   #24303
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Denver is now paying a backup QB who's had 1 good year to start for them. They're clearly not better than they were last year, and they sucked las tyear.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:35 PM   #24304
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I was happy to have Dorsey drafting all those "starters" and watching them choke in the playoffs. Hope Veech continues that trend with pmINT at the helm as he dumps all the guys Dorsey brought in. All those years I heard loss spouting off about Dorsey's great drafts and he has one weak WC win vs a terrible Texans team to show for it.
And we're all happy El fraud continues to lead the Donkos into post-Manning purgatory with shitty drafts and F.A. signings . . . . .

Enjoy that.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:41 PM   #24305
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Denver is now paying a backup QB who's had 1 good year to start for them. They're clearly not better than they were last year, and they sucked las tyear.
He had 22 TD’s in 15 games with an elite surrounding cast of talent and coaching. He’s not getting anywhere near that surrounding cast in Denver.

Vance Joseph is terrible enough. Dude got blown out more than the Browns last year and outcoached badly by the Chargers and Chiefs. Now they lose Talib.

Broncos are headed to a dark place right now.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:41 PM   #24306
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So you're argument is KC's offense is NOT better with Watkins, then say Chris Conley, Jehu Chesson, etc., or whoever else you wanna plug in there?
Watkins is better than Conley. Mahomes isn't better than Alex Smith.

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Denver will be paying that same group $56 mil. in 2019.
I don't see Denver doing that next year. We'll see.
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Watkins is better than Conley. Mahomes isn't better than Alex Smith.


I don't see Denver doing that next year. We'll see.
Based on?
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:44 PM   #24308
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Watkins is better than Conley. Mahomes isn't better than Alex Smith.


I don't see Denver doing that next year. We'll see.
Based on what? Alex Smith is the perfect game manager, and we've all seen what that gets you.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:52 PM   #24309
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Alex Smith was the highest rated passer in the league last year. He had more TD's and less INT's than Drew Brees.


Mahomes may turn out great, but there's no way he plays better than Alex Smith did in 2017.
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Funny how Broncos fans went from telling us Alex was the reason we could never win it all to saying it doesn’t get any better than him

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wait til Mahomes is drilling Denver 35-10. Then they’ll see why Mahomes is better.
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Most of us understand there will be a learning curve next year with PMII, but all in all I could really give two shits whether Pat's QB rating is better next year than Alexis' was this year.

I'd much rather have the QB that can actually DO something for you when you get to the playoffs and has the ability to put the team on his back and carry them. We ALL know Alex CAN'T do that. Can Mahomes? TBD, but the early reviews look promising. We'll find out soon enough.
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Funny how Broncos fans went from telling us Alex was the reason we could never win it all to saying it doesn’t get any better than him

That wasn't Alex Smith last year. He was a totally different guy last year.
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Most of us understand there will be a learning curve next year with PMII, but all in all I could really give two shits whether Pat's QB rating is better next year than Alexis' was this year.

I'd much rather have the QB that can actually DO something for you when you get to the playoffs and has the ability to put the team on his back and carry them. We ALL know Alex CAN'T do that. Can Mahomes? TBD, but the early reviews look promising. We'll find out soon enough.
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Not much for Mahomes to do to be better than Alex.
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That wasn't Alex Smith that year. He was a totally different guy last year.
Yea, ok

Still only threw 26 TD’s despite having 3 1,000 yard weapons at WR/TE/RB. He was efficient, but let’s not pretend he was anymore of a playmaker big picture wise despite connecting on more deep balls.
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