The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[CupidStunt]

My take at this point is pretty simple. I want Jones back, but I think we'll end up regretting anything north of 25m - the same as the other guys got - and even that might not be sitting well in the 3rd or 4th years of the deal.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Or, perhaps he saw the team would be clinical about a contract that has big non-guaranteed years at the end that aren’t guaranteed and is looking for more guarantees late in the contract. Or a shorter term.

Or something that makes sense and is protective from his end and doesn’t protect KC’s flexibility well enough.

Exactly. For a contract to work for KC they would have to lower his cap hit which means money later in the contract. But at the same time they would want flexibility in case his performance drops.

Jones is on his last big contract and would want to protect himself through guarantees as a big contract on paper but plenty of ways to prevent him from seeing a lot of it won't be in his best interest.

[O.city]

Man...did that just come out of nowhere?

Did they just come to the 30 million dollar number a couple weeks ago?

[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, if that's accurate he can play out the year and be shipped off during the 2024 offseason.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

Yeah, if that's accurate he can play out the year and be shipped off during the 2024 offseason.

His agent is a moron. If he really holds out until week 8, we get considerable cap space back and can franchise him for $24.5 million which is cheap.

Then what? Do this song and dance again and have nobody pay you what we are currently offering?

[TEX]

Can we have a new poll? Bet its much different now. I know Id change my vote.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

His agent is a moron. If he really holds out until week 8, we get considerable cap space back and can franchise him for $24.5 million which is cheap.

Then what? Do this song and dance again and have nobody pay you what we are currently offering?

It just makes no sense to do that, you give the Chiefs complete leverage.

They could then tag you for 2 years at 50 million dollars total.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Don't think it's that complicated. Veach made him an offer. Probably around $27-28 million APY and Chris wants $30 million.

Andy said there's no communication. Well it sounds like Chris is willing to die on this hill and the Chiefs aren't going to budge from their offer.

My guess is it's all about years and guaranteed money. Chris probably wants 4 with Guaranteed around $80m and Chiefs probably want 3 with a 4th throw away year and guarantees around $65m. I don't think they are hung up on an APY, it's all about the guaranteed money.

[jettio]

So the chiefsplanet that says Tyrann Matheiu played not to get hurt when he was in the last year of his contract thinks Chris Jones would be the same guy he was if no extension gets done.

Jones wears a knee brace on his right leg when playing, maybe that is more an injury prevention thing. But if Jones play was DPOY level when he was playing for his next contract, I doubt he has the same level of play if he has to survive the year healthy to get a long term deal from another team.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Man...did that just come out of nowhere?

Did they just come to the 30 million dollar number a couple weeks ago?

Well I said I saw that number on a TV in a bar when I posted it here a couple of weeks ago while drunk. I got trashed and lectured about being trashed and posting. Since there was no confirmation, I agreed probably just me being trashed at the time.

Now I'm thinking maybe I did see something about the $30 million # even if I couldn't remember what station or reporter.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by RunKC

His agent is a moron. If he really holds out until week 8, we get considerable cap space back and can franchise him for $24.5 million which is cheap.

Then what? Do this song and dance again and have nobody pay you what we are currently offering?

At some point, you have to weigh his agent's advice...is this guy doing what's best for his client, or is he just a guy trying to make a splashy, home run deal as entree' into the sports agent biz? This has been such a lose-lose negotiation.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Absolutely.

I get being frustrated. But mad at the guy? Be mad at him if he’s not playing week 1. Be mad at him if it’s week 3 and he doesn’t have a sack.

I don’t think he deserves all this vitriol yet. But that can change.

Posting pictures of yourself sitting on your ass and drinking water captioned "We out here working" was stupid.

Playing the bitch on social media is both unprofessional and stupid. Any vitriol this idiot and his agent receive is WELL DESERVED.

Mahomes took less to get you this ****ing deal, and now you're threatening to bitch out of half of your final year on the deal because you want more money.

Even if he reports week 1, he has put an image of himself out there, of his own volition, that he's not willing to honor the contract he signed, that the best ****ing player on the planet took less money in order for him to have it.

If Jones was making 8, 10 million per season, and was vastly underpaid, maaaaybe people could see it.

This ****er is set to make 20 million dollars. He ain't getting paid in chickenfeed and the guy has already pissed away millions in fines for failing to report.

He just comes off as greedy reerun that won't honor his contract, and revels in it on social media.

Everywhere you look that posts these idiotic messages Jones has posted, the overwhelming response in the comments is trade him, move on.

It's a page right out of Honey Vadger's playbook. It worked out well for him, hope the same happens for Chris.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by jettio

So the chiefsplanet that says Tyrann Matheiu played not to get hurt when he was in the last year of his contract thinks Chris Jones would be the same guy he was if no extension gets done.

Jones wears a knee brace on his right leg when playing, maybe that is more an injury prevention thing. But if Jones play was DPOY level when he was playing for his next contract, I doubt he has the same level of play if he has to survive the year healthy to get a long term deal from another team.

One side of it is playing safe and not getting hurt. The other side is that if you want to get paid like a top 5 player in the NFL, you have to, you know, play like a top 5 player in the NFL.

He's not getting a deal that rivals Donald's and is clear of the next grouping of DTs if he comes out and has a mediocre year. The only way he gets that deal is either (1) from the Chiefs, right now; (2) if he has another All-Pro, dominant season

[O.city]

What's goin on with Bosa in SF? They gonna pay him?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by jettio

So the chiefsplanet that says Tyrann Matheiu played not to get hurt when he was in the last year of his contract thinks Chris Jones would be the same guy he was if no extension gets done.

Jones wears a knee brace on his right leg when playing, maybe that is more an injury prevention thing. But if Jones play was DPOY level when he was playing for his next contract, I doubt he has the same level of play if he has to survive the year healthy to get a long term deal from another team.

Were the Chiefs offering Matheiu anything close to a top of pay for that position? Of course not as I don’t think they offered him anything if I recall. So he was never going to get a raise over his previous contract.

Not only is Jones likely passing up a big raise right now from the Chiefs, he passes up getting a big raise from anyone if he doesn’t perform well again this season. I maintain that if he has any hope of $30 per year he has to repeat of not outdo what he did last season. Anything short of it, and he is back to where he is right now with the Chiefs, and potentially lower if he sits out or under performs.