Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 162

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Reerun_KC · 10-04-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Gabe just said on an interview that Alden received over 900 emails in one day regarding the conference realignment issue, with over 90% of them in favor of going to the SEC.

He said Gary Pinkel and the fanbase are the big drivers of the move.

Good interview with Clay Travis.

Thats freaking awesome...

mnchiefsguy · 10-04-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Gabe just said on an interview that Alden received over 900 emails in one day regarding the conference realignment issue, with over 90% of them in favor of going to the SEC.

He said Gary Pinkel and the fanbase are the big drivers of the move.

Good interview with Clay Travis.

Sounds like the fans have spoken. Hopefully the curators have gotten the message, and hopefully Deaton won't sabatoge it.

mnchiefsguy · 10-04-2011, 01:09 PM

These folks seem to think WVU to SEC is a done deal:

http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-ar...otting-ts.html

Hope this is not true.

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-04-2011, 01:16 PM

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Former Mountaineer quarterback Major Harris was quoted yesterday as saying that he was “hearing a little buzz about the SEC” but “that’s just people talking.” Could that be all it took to spawn the new chatter? Possibly.

Speaking to a well-positioned source inside an SEC institution today, we have been told — again — that the SEC did not deny WVU’s entry into the league when the school reached out to conference brass last month. But they weren’t bearhugged as Texas A&M was, either.

WVU remains a fallback choice due to the small population and small number of cable households inside its state borders. Academics are also an issue with some presidents in the league.

However, if Missouri stays in the Big 12, the rest of the landscape stabilizes, and the SEC faces multiple years as a 13-school league… then WVU might become a lot more attractive.

If that occurs, expect the SEC to tout WVU’s fan passion, similar culture, and its close proximity to Pittsburgh and other major metro areas as part of its spin.

For now — from what we’re hearing — it’s Missouri or bust. And the SEC isn’t sweating Mizzou’s decision. West Virginia remains a deep fallback option. The only other school that our sources continue to mention as a possibility is Florida State.

We trust our sources because they’ve been right in the past and because they’re coming from different areas of the league. But when it comes to the many variables and politics involved in conference expansion, we wouldn’t be shocked if the SEC announced the addition of North Dakota State this afternoon.

http://www.mrsec.com/

**HemiEd** · 10-04-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

These folks seem to think WVU to SEC is a done deal:

http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-ar...otting-ts.html

Hope this is not true.

He is certainly right about this part: "West Virginians are used to being the punch-line in jokes, we’re used to being mocked and having stereotypes unfairly applied to us,"

Its not like they are "Okies" or "Arkies."

mnchiefsguy · 10-04-2011, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the link Dak, that makes a lot more sense.

Hasn't the curators meeting begun? I think it was scheduled to start around 1 or 2.

Bambi · 10-04-2011, 01:22 PM

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

mnchiefsguy · 10-04-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

KK can shove it. Mizzou needs to do what is best for Mizzou, not what is best for Kansas City, KU, or KSU.

Crush · 10-04-2011, 01:28 PM

GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond

#Mizzou AD Mike Alden just arrived at Board of Curators meeting in St. Louis

duncan_idaho · 10-04-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

KK sporting delusional drivel driven by his ksu homerism.

FYP

I'm much more skeptical about the SEC move than most Mizzou fans, but the picture Kietzmann paints is not realistic.

He's also either blatantly lying or listening to people who are blatantly wrong if he thinks a lot of the "highly placed people" at Mizzou don't want to move and aren't going to move.

The move is likely happening.

As Missouri fans, the thing to root for if that happens would be for Texas and Oklahoma to join the PAC and precipitate the destruction of the Big 12 (or at least radical change that severely reduces it as a BCS conference and force in the state of Texas).

Missouri is going to have a new challenge recruiting Texas, recruiting against the Big 12 conference affiliation most feel (outside Aggie fans). It's the same one Arkansas and LSU have struggled with.

Best thing that could happen to mitigate that would be the dissolution of the Big 12, reducing the competition with schools like oSu, Tech and Baylor for the next wave of talent.

Frazod · 10-04-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond

#Mizzou AD Mike Alden just arrived at Board of Curators meeting in St. Louis

Shit just got real

(somebody had to say it

)

eazyb81 · 10-04-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

It is awesome that the meme has gone from Mizzou has no chance of getting an SEC bid, to a move to the SEC will destroy Mizzou.

I love it.

eazyb81 · 10-04-2011, 01:32 PM

KK: Poor Ryan Reynolds, he is stuck with Scarlett Johansson.

mnchiefsguy · 10-04-2011, 01:40 PM

KK says if he was a betting man, he would bet on Mizzou staying. That has to be a good sign right?

**Saulbadguy** · 10-04-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

KK says if he was a betting man, he would bet on Mizzou staying. That has to be a good sign right?

There is a reason KK is "BITB" (best in the biz)

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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