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Old 02-16-2025, 02:50 PM  
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Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?
I for one do. We have seen them rise up and shut the critics up enough to not lose faith. It was ugly and surprising for sure but the SB magnifies everything for some reason. Mahomes for sure is no quitter and neither is Veach and Andy. We will recover and be right back in the AFCCG for another shot.
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Old 02-19-2025, 06:48 PM   #226
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Revisionist history.

Chiefs were tied 10-10 with SF.

2020 there was no way to tell if that team was prepared or not with that OL, and all the damn drops.

2022 they were prepared fine. Scored on the first two drives, then Mahomes missed a wide open MVS deep.

2023 they looked like they were trying to find the right combination early and when they finally did it stuck.

It's an oversimplication to say the Chiefs were unprepared in any of these games, especially with so many errors in execution.
The offense has scored 26 points in five Super Bowls in the first half with Mahomes. That's a fact. They didn't score twice in 2022 in the first half. One of those was a defensive TD.

That's just over 5 points per game in the first half.

That's called being unprepared to start games.
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Old 02-19-2025, 06:57 PM   #227
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This is the most pervasive, and annoying ****ing question that comes up any time valid and deserved criticism is leveled at Andy Reid.

Criticism of a ****ing horrible gameplan in the biggest game of his life does not equal FIRE ANDY REID.

We all enjoy and recognize the 7 straight AFCCG games, and 5 Superbowl appearances, but listen up asshole. All that past accomplishment does not absolve Andy of having 2 weeks to prepare, and putting forth quite possibly the absolute WORST ganeplan of his NFL coaching career, and following it up on Superbowl Sunday with ZERO adjustments to personnel, or playcalling.

Can any other coach do better over the last 7 years? Maybe. Andy wasn't really impressing anyone in post season pre Mahomes.

Could any other coach do better on the day of Superbowl LIX,?Im pretty sure a 10 year old Madden player could've done a better job that day, let alone one of the other 30 coaches sitting home and watching Andy put yet another hilariously impressive loss on his resume.


Doesn't mean we want Andy fired. It means we recognize the guy shit his pants in the post season again.

Anybody coming out in defense of what he put together for that game is just a simple blinded Andy fanboy.

You can appreciate what he's done, and still call out a braindead level coaching job.
Exactly.

People act like things cannot be mutually exclusive. Andy shit the bed in this Super Bowl by not making adjustments to the lineup and the game plan, it's really that simple. That doesn't take away anything else he's accomplished nor mean we all want him fired.
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Old 02-19-2025, 06:59 PM   #228
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The offense has scored 26 points in five Super Bowls in the first half with Mahomes. That's a fact. They didn't score twice in 2022 in the first half. One of those was a defensive TD.

That's just over 5 points per game in the first half.

That's called being unprepared to start games.
Yup. And this time it bit us in the ass because the hole was too deep. And there were no adjustments made at any point to save the sinking ship
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The offense has scored 26 points in five Super Bowls in the first half with Mahomes. That's a fact. They didn't score twice in 2022 in the first half. One of those was a defensive TD.

That's just over 5 points per game in the first half.

That's called being unprepared to start games.
Over-simplification. You can't just lump all the games together like that.

I'd say they were unprepared in the last two. The other three are a mixed bag.
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Old 02-19-2025, 07:23 PM   #230
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Over-simplification. You can't just lump all the games together like that.

I'd say they were unprepared in the last two. The other three are a mixed bag.
Five games in six years is a good sample size.
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Five games in six years is a good sample size.
But it was different every time. You are trying to find a common theme across five games with different opponents and assign that meaning to a single game. It just doesn't work. The only reason you're doing it is because you are desperate to blame coaching for some reason.
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:27 PM   #232
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Over-simplification. You can't just lump all the games together like that.

I'd say they were unprepared in the last two. The other three are a mixed bag.
Unprepared despite your pregame comments about how the Chiefs were going to smoke the Eagles? You love playing both sides don’t you?
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Unprepared despite your pregame comments about how the Chiefs were going to smoke the Eagles? You love playing both sides don’t you?
Sod off.
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Written in stone, forever, will be that Andy Reid was absolutely humiliated by Nick Sirianni on the cusp of NFL immortality.

Worse, a defense run by a defensive coordinator that was previously 0-8 against Patrick Mahomes absolutely dismantled every single solitary facet of Andy "greatest play designer/play caller in football" Reids fever dream of a gameplan.

Hey listen. Maybe moving Joe back inside and putting the towel boy in at LT would have had no positive effect. The issue to everyone watching, is that you didn't even try, and your sideline demeanor suggested that you weren't particularly motivated to try to fix anything.

At least if you made token changes, and it kept imploding, the fanbase could at least see that you tried to do something different.

The plan was horseshit from the jump. No designed running of the football. Option for your super competitive killer qb to either hand off, or put tge ball in his hands with all the pressure to win this on him.

Mahomes is NEVER willingly giving up that football. Perhaps to his detriment. Call the God damn run. ****ing commit.

6 carries combined by 2 backs against a ferocious pass rushing d line with a patchwork o line wasn't going to be great to start with, but then also completely excluding your quick game? No hot reads?

It's this type of shit that get the rigged community going. How can a guy that has coached over 2 decades, have this amazing run of success, and then just walk out to the sideline and perform like he's in a diabetic ****ing coma the past 2 weeks?

It's easily the most horrible loss of Andy's career.
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Exactly.

People act like things cannot be mutually exclusive. Andy shit the bed in this Super Bowl by not making adjustments to the lineup and the game plan, it's really that simple. That doesn't take away anything else he's accomplished nor mean we all want him fired.
Eh, you're not wrong.

But I also would guess he (along with the rest of us) probably knew there wasn't much to adjust.
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How do you throw "hot reads" when teams aren't blitzing?

Throw it quick to the guy that's covered?
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How do you throw "hot reads" when teams aren't blitzing?

Throw it quick to the guy that's covered?
Thats right. I COMPLETELY forgot that you only put in safety valve routes on plays called in the huddle when the other team has the ref announce to the stadium that they're blitzing the next play.

You'd never just have one when your qb is running for his life at the snap of the football on EVERY SINGLE PASS ATTEMPT.

Yeah you just run the 3-4 second patterns exclusively right?
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Thats right. I COMPLETELY forgot that you only put in safety valve routes on plays called in the huddle when the other team has the ref announce to the stadium that they're blitzing the next play.

You'd never just have one when your qb is running for his life at the snap of the football on EVERY SINGLE PASS ATTEMPT.

Yeah you just run the 3-4 second patterns exclusively right?
Well...it would appear we did have alot of short breaking routes.....that got sat on.

Then we couldn't block long enough for the longer stuff to work. So I'm not sure what the next element of surprise woulda been.
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