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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
Will update OP with more info.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:08 AM   #226
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Only a Die Hard Chiefs fan could say trading away a top 3 WR in the NFL will make his team better
It can. He won't be looking to try and force feed one guy the way we have seen him before. Reading defenses will be more on his mind than him just looking deep to Hill and chuck it up like he did on the last play of the season.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:08 AM   #227
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I don't see Hill's game aging well. Once he loses a step he's just a fast WR afraid of contact. The Chiefs got several years of extreme surplus value out of him then spun him off to retool their depth.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:08 AM   #228
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:09 AM   #229
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That will rebuild a defense. Veach going to the Brady/Pats model for more SB’s?
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:09 AM   #231
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Seems like this was foreshadowed a bit in the KC Star, when Tyreek Hill had Tyreek Hill Day in Douglas, Georgia, on March 12, 2022, on same day as the Mahomes wedding in Hawaii.

I thought it was a little off that the tribute day was scheduled for same day.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:09 AM   #232
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Sucks in the short-term. Absolutely great in the long-term. As long as we have Mahomes we will be fine. Build up the defense to be an absolutely dominating unit to pair with a Mahomes led offense. This gives Veach the draft picks and cap space to do that.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:09 AM   #234
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Starting to look like the Chiefs were offering close to the same amount in real dollars.

I'm gonna when Miami is at 50/50 halfway through next year and the owner starts working the new coach to play for draft position.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:10 AM   #237
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If I read it correctly, almost the entire contract becomes guaranteed in 2023.
The contract is really ****ing outrageous.

The draft picks we got back are pretty disappointing but no way could we (or should we) have given him a contract like that.
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hill is a game changer….you don’t trade gamechangers in their prime. Kelce is going to have a down year because teams won’t be doubling any of our other WRs now
You would be OK with giving hill that contract?
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I don't see Hill's game aging well. Once he loses a step he's just a fast WR afraid of contact. The Chiefs got several years of extreme surplus value out of him then spun him off to retool their depth.
In 3 or 4 years sure
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It's the 4ths that bug me.

29 and 50 isn't a bad start, but for YEARS this board has justified bad decisions with these late 1st round picks as 'its virtually a 2nd anyway' and now we're supposed to pretend like it has the value that the Raiders pick had that they shipped to GB?

If 29 is the 'top' asset, there needs to be more ancillary pieces to justify it. And friggen 4th round picks ain't that.

You use 4th rounders to move up 6 spots in the 2nd. You don't use them to put a deal over the top for a HoF ****ing pass catcher.

That needed to be, at WORST, a 2 next year and honestly I'd have given up a 3 or something this season to see that be one of their 1sts next year.

It's just bad return. You can't get less than the Packers got for Adams and somehow we did.

Veach blinked. Wouldn't be the first time.
All depends on which draft value chart you follow. KC, based on the Brown deal last year, seems to follow the old Johnson chart fairly closely. Which is what draftek is based on, right?

22: 780
53: 370

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50: 400
121: 52
2023 4th: 25 (estimating based on 2022 5th)
2023 6th: 1 (estimating based on 2022 7th)

so, the math is...
Packers 1150
Chiefs 1118

Difference equates to a 5th round pick.
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