*****The Joshua Kaindoh Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

Kaindoh (pronounced cane-dough) was tabbed as one of the top defensive end prospects in the country and a USA Today first-team All-American after spending his senior season at IMG Academy. The Baltimore native flashed talent in his first two years in Tallahassee, earning playing time in all 13 games of his true freshman season (17 tackles, 6.5 for loss, with four sacks) and then starting once in 12 appearances in 2018 (19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, with three sacks). Kaindoh appeared in three games with one start in his junior campaign (nine tackles, 2.5 for loss, with one sack) but was lost for the rest of the year with a lower leg injury. He started eight games in 2020, making 13 tackles, three for loss, and returned an interception for a touchdown. -- by Chad Reuter

Overview
Former five-star defensive end who looks the part but doesn't have the production to go with the traits. Kaindoh has good length but is inconsistent in activating it properly, as his upper-body strength falls a little short. He doesn't have the natural gait and fluid movements of fellow FSU defensive end prospect Janarius Robinson and tends to stay blocked once his opponent gets into his frame. There are occasional flashes as a rusher, but if he doesn't take an early lead, he's unlikely to get home. He might be worth a look later in the draft based purely upon the traits.
Strengths

• Long, NFL-caliber frame with even more room for muscle.
• Adequate upfield spring off the snap and into neutral zone.
• Initial quickness and body lean help him knife into B-gap on slants.
• Uses length to separate and set the edge.
• Capable of getting from one edge to the other with his rush counter.
• Speed-to-power conversion potential as a pro.
• Length could become more effective rush weapon with work.

Weaknesses

• Has dealt with injuries and made just 10 career starts.
• Looked as though he were favoring left ankle at times.
• Play tends to be segmented and lacks athletic fluidity.
• Doesn't use size traits to command the rep.
• Below-average rush with only one sack in his last 11 games.
• Inaccurate hand slaps fail to open outside rush lanes.
• Not enough bend to dip below punch at top of the rush.
• Runs out of gas during chase.

[kcclone]

Based on last year's small sample size, pre-season and regular season, Kaindoh will be lucky to be on the roster in a year or two. He looked totally clueless.

It is what it is. Hitting on a high level Edge past the second round is very rare.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kcclone

Based on last year's small sample size, pre-season and regular season, Kaindoh will be lucky to be on the roster in a year or two. He looked totally clueless.

It is what it is. Hitting on a high level Edge past the second round is very rare.

That’s the problem. You’re basing it off a small sample size with a guy that was never going to be ready year 1.

The coaching was and still is awful at FSU.

Now he’s got Joe Cullen coaching him up. Relax and have some patience.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That’s the problem. You’re basing it off a small sample size with a guy that was never going to be ready year 1.

The coaching was and still is awful at FSU.

Now he’s got Joe Cullen coaching him up. Relax and have some patience.

These are probably the same people who pined for Tim Jones or whatever that practice squad guy was we lost to the jets. He was a udfa hero, but because a guy with literally the prototype body was a 4th and stupid raw they root against him(also see Noah Gray vs Jody Fortson). But then also bitch that guys like Bolton and cook aren’t high enough upside and “safe” picks. There’s no pleasing people on here. Every pick is too raw or too boring.

[Bump]

it would be nice if this dude and/or Noah Gray stepped their game up to the next level of where they are at and do a little more contributing

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

These are probably the same people who pined for Tim Jones or whatever that practice squad guy was we lost to the jets. He was a udfa hero, but because a guy with literally the prototype body was a 4th and stupid raw they root against him(also see Noah Gray vs Jody Fortson). But then also bitch that guys like Bolton and cook aren’t high enough upside and “safe” picks. There’s no pleasing people on here. Every pick is too raw or too boring.

Exactly. If they take good football players with a high floor, they complain about the lack of upside.

If they take a big swing on upside, they don’t have any patience for development.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Exactly. If they take good football players with a high floor, they complain about the lack of upside.

If they take a big swing on upside, they don’t have any patience for development.

Tony Gonzalez was a bust his rookie year

probably could make a list of great players that had shitty rookie years I bet there are some HOFers.

[Dunerdr]

This guy with no clue looks more lethal than Tanoh ever did. Tanoh looked like an athlete, Kaindoh moves like an athlete. Hopefully Cullen gets something out of him even if he’s only a situational pass rusher.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That’s the problem. You’re basing it off a small sample size with a guy that was never going to be ready year 1.

The coaching was and still is awful at FSU.

Now he’s got Joe Cullen coaching him up. Relax and have some patience.

He and Trey Smith were two of the top players in the country coming out of high school. There's real potential here that shouldn't be dismissed.

[Dunerdr]

Man I can’t get over how much he looks like a grown man in those highlights.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Tony Gonzalez was a bust his rookie year

probably could make a list of great players that had shitty rookie years I bet there are some HOFers.

Derrick Johnson

Eric Fisher

Dwayne Bowe

Tamba Hali

Jamaal Charles

I still remember having to look at Jamaal's ypc after his rookie year to talk people off the ledge

[smithandrew051]

Dee Ford was pretty worthless for his first two years. Then he ended up with a 10 and 13 sack season.

[saphojunkie]

Patrick Mahomes did basically nothing his rookie year. this proves the point and there's no use arguing with me. It's ironclad logic, I'm putting you all on ignore.

[chiefforlife]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Dee Ford was pretty worthless for his first two years. Then he ended up with a 10 and 13 sack season.

I was just going to post about this...

NOBODY looked more clueless than Dee Ford, you know the play Im talking about.

The Chiefs were able to trade him for a 2nd rounder (Willie Gay). The 49rs paid him ridiculous money for very little production and are still dealing with his bloated contract.

Point is, he was lost on the Field but turned in a few good seasons, enough to recoup a second rounder. You never know

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Derrick Johnson

Eric Fisher

Dwayne Bowe

Tamba Hali

Jamaal Charles

I still remember having to look at Jamaal's ypc after his rookie year to talk people off the ledge

Lol dude Bowe, and Charles, and really even DJ didn't have shitty rookie years. Charles was behind Larry Johnson still and Herm was a stubborn ass. Bowe nearly had 1,000 yards and DJ did "ok" for a rookie.

[O.city]

Those were all highly drafted guys. This is an injury prone fourth rounder that....got injured.

I'd imagine the chances of getting much from him are fairly slim.