Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick

[CoMoChief]

Alex Smith v2.0

[Pin Head]

Originally Posted by SNR

Let us know how your Madden franchise goes. I hope you win the Super Bowl with them

I know you want a QB and trust, I get that. You'll be thanking your lucky stars that we're going to use the #1 overall and overdraft 20 slots on Geno instead of future All Pro's JJones, Star L, T'eo. QB and HC really are our two biggest shortcomings. But they are not the ony two. The Chief's weaknesses clearly starts at HC and QB. But the next tier of problems comes in at WR (all of them assuming Bowe leaves in UFA)

Chiefs have not one single guy that can consistently get himsef open with quickness, agil and accurate at running routes. CHiefs have no receiver with straight line speed or with jumping ability.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Narrow Head

I know you want a QB and trust, I get that. You'll be thanking your lucky stars that we're going to use the #1 overall and overdraft 20 slots on Geno instead of future All Pro's JJones, Star L, T'eo. QB and HC really are our two biggest shortcomings. But they are not the ony two. The Chief's weaknesses clearly starts at HC and QB. But the next tier of problems comes in at WR (all of them assuming Bowe leaves in UFA)

Chiefs have not one single guy that can consistently get himsef open with quickness, agil and accurate at running routes. CHiefs have no receiver with straight line speed or with jumping ability.

Wut?

[Pin Head]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Wut?

Maybe ARenas will run a more vertical passing attack next year with Geno...he goes through his progressions awfully slow. That rules out a WCO coach. But now we're back to needing deep threat WR's. We won't have any of those.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Narrow Head

If I'm GM, I call up Gene Smiths replacement and offer him Tamba Hali for the first pick in round 2. Then I take Jarvis Jones or Moore with the 1st overall pick, take the BPA at QB and WR with the first two picks of round 2 or use them to trade down to get more picks. Those early round 2 picks should be very valuable. So now I have cap room to resign Bowe and Albert's, got value with the 1st overall pick and given some nice value or trading chips in round 2 of a good draft(outside of QB and RB of course.)

So you're going to trade a KNOWN quantity, playing at a Pro Bowl level, for potential.

Yeah, your username is apt.

[Pin Head]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you're going to trade a KNOWN quantity, playing at a Pro Bowl level, for potential.

Yeah, your username is apt.

Perhaps we use a 2nd round pick on one of Geno's WR's from WV. That's another tough sell.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Narrow Head

I've also read that T Jackson is due something like $14m next year? If so, he'll be cut unless he renegotiates his deal. He's going receive a ton of interest in UFA so I'm assuming that his agent will tell him to test the open market if we come calling to rengotiate that deal.

I would personally help Tyson Jackson's overrated, overdrafted a$$ move to whatever city claims the team dumb enough to dump money on him.

The Chiefs have plenty of cap room. $100 million under it, combined, over the past 4 years (i.e. The Pioli Disaster). It isn't going to be a problem, and Tyson Jackson certainly isn't going to bust the cap.

Worrying about not having cap room to keep Tyson Jackson is about like worrying about not having a condom to f*** Roseanne Barr.

[bevischief]

This will not end well for you...

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Narrow Head

I know you want a QB and trust, I get that. You'll be thanking your lucky stars that we're going to use the #1 overall and overdraft 20 slots on Geno instead of future All Pro's JJones, Star L, T'eo. QB and HC really are our two biggest shortcomings. But they are not the ony two. The Chief's weaknesses clearly starts at HC and QB. But the next tier of problems comes in at WR (all of them assuming Bowe leaves in UFA)

Chiefs have not one single guy that can consistently get himsef open with quickness, agil and accurate at running routes. CHiefs have no receiver with straight line speed or with jumping ability.

One of those three is a future all-pro at an impact position.

One other is a space eating DT (who is only slightly separated from a plethora of other stud DTs and therefore ALSO an overdraft).

The last is a physically underwhelming, try-hard guy at a non-impact position. He probably will make some Pro Bowls based on his name and pedigree alone (cough... Eric Berry ... cough), but I will be shocked if Te'o is ever considered a "huge impact guy" anywhere outside a Mormon mission.

[htismaqe]

Manti Te'o is now a future All-Pro?

[Pin Head]

We need an entirely new set of WR's...Baldwin and Co don't have it. Losing Bowe would hurt badly.

[Austin Ed]

Interesting stats for Geno versus that powerhouse Syracuse defense. 18 of 24 for 187 with 59 of the 187 being pure YAC on a single play. WV zero for 9 on third down and zero for two on fourth. Lost fumble. Two safeties with one on an intentional grounding call. Lots of scowls and funny faces though. The snow affected his play and, as we know, it never snows in KC or Denver. Sounds like there can be no question in anybody's mind. Everyone has to agree that Geno is the number one pick off the board. If you disagree, you must be a complete football dipshit.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by Narrow Head

Perhaps we use a 2nd round pick on one of Geno's WR's from WV. That's another tough sell.

I'd rather have some of those receivers than the quarterback from WVU. Taking a smaller, slower quarterback like Geno could freeze the defenses if he's got mike wallace like speed at receiver to go with charles in the backfield. If there's one thing about Geno that transcends this crop of quarterbacks it's making big plays with the deep ball and track star receivers.

And just go ahead and cut baldwin.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by seamonster

I'd rather have some of those receivers than the quarterback from WVU. Taking a smaller, slower quarterback like Geno could freeze the defenses if he's got mike wallace like speed at receiver to go with charles in the backfield. If there's one thing about Geno that transcends this crop of quarterbacks it's making big plays with the deep ball and track star receivers.

And just go ahead and cut baldwin.

What are you talking about? Smaller and slower than whom?

Yeah, he's smaller and slower than Cam Newton. But Smith has good size (6-3, 215) and moves very well in the pocket (Better than Glennon, Wilson, Nassib, Bray, Barkley, and Landry Jones).

The only top QBs who really move as well as Smith are Tahj Boyd (who is nowhere close to the passer Smith is) and Aaron Murray (who might or might not be coming out).

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Austin Ed

Interesting stats for Geno versus that powerhouse Syracuse defense. 18 of 24 for 187 with 59 of the 187 being pure YAC on a single play. WV zero for 9 on third down and zero for two on fourth. Lost fumble. Two safeties with one on an intentional grounding call. Lots of scowls and funny faces though. The snow affected his play and, as we know, it never snows in KC or Denver. Sounds like there can be no question in anybody's mind. Everyone has to agree that Geno is the number one pick off the board. If you disagree, you must be a complete football dipshit.

West Virginia was one of the best teams in the country on 3rd down all season, but please use all the statistical outliners your little heart desires. We feel he is the best because we have RESEARCHED, WATCHED, AND ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE **** WE ARE SEEING.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Manti Te'o is now a future All-Pro?

All Pro what?

Ass wiper?