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Old 11-22-2024, 09:18 AM  
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Old 01-05-2025, 10:31 PM   #2371
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I thought the same.

I'd rather have Morris out there healthy than DJ after today. Dude got WRECKED.

Wayne would at least have games here and there that were average.

So if it were about sliding a tackle out there IMO it's Morris. NOt Humphries.
Can you walk me through your assessment of Thuney’s performance at LT in light of the fact that the game against Pittsburgh was Mahomes’ fastest time to throw in his entire career and the game against Houston was his fastest since early in the 2021 season? Please walk me through how that’s a testament to the success of the line - and LT in particular - rather than overtly trying to mask its deficiencies.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-05-2025, 10:32 PM   #2372
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Nate Taylor was saying that it's most likely going to be Thuney because Pat trusts him to do whatever it takes to give him time and while he might get pushed back, he won't allow the free runners that Pat hates to get to him. He'll put his body on the line to protect Pat.

He gave it a 60% odds Thuney starts at LT unless DJ Humphries absolutely dominated today.
And that’s everything right there. I saw Hump throw a couple more no-hitters out there today. Those get your QB killed and lead to fumbles, at best.

Thuney always makes it a battle. I don’t think there’s much choice here but again, I’ll defer to Andy and Pat to know best.
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Old 01-05-2025, 10:36 PM   #2373
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Nate Taylor was saying that it's most likely going to be Thuney because Pat trusts him to do whatever it takes to give him time and while he might get pushed back, he won't allow the free runners that Pat hates to get to him. He'll put his body on the line to protect Pat.

He gave it a 60% odds Thuney starts at LT unless DJ Humphries absolutely dominated today.
I expect its Thuney.
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Can you walk me through your assessment of Thuney’s performance at LT in light of the fact that the game against Pittsburgh was Mahomes’ fastest time to throw in his entire career and the game against Houston was his fastest since early in the 2021 season? Please walk me through how that’s a testament to the success of the line - and LT in particular - rather than overtly trying to mask its deficiencies.

Thanks in advance.
You're right, the line probably is weaker going with Thuney than if Humphries could give us passable LT play.

But it's just too god damn late. Putting Humphries out there is banking on hopes and prayers that his conditioning improves and that he can put up serviceable LT play, which he has yet to prove. It's all hopes and dreams. I don't want to bank our season on that.

This shouldn't be about the ceiling of our OL play, it's about going with what works and winning 3 games.
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I expect its Thuney.
I think Today sealed that.
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Still glad we have Humphries.


He's a far better option than Wanya.
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Still glad we have Humphries.


He's a far better option than Wanya.
He will be much better with a proper TC and preseason. It doesn't appear that his injury impacted him. He's just not in shape. He's not ready to compete against the league's best right now.

But if he can solve that LT problem for us next year and buy us time to develop someone behind him...
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Can you walk me through your assessment of Thuney’s performance at LT in light of the fact that the game against Pittsburgh was Mahomes’ fastest time to throw in his entire career and the game against Houston was his fastest since early in the 2021 season? Please walk me through how that’s a testament to the success of the line - and LT in particular - rather than overtly trying to mask its deficiencies.

Thanks in advance.
Wasn't Patrick coming off an ankle injury 5 days prior?
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You're right, the line probably is weaker going with Thuney than if Humphries could give us passable LT play.

But it's just too god damn late. Putting Humphries out there is banking on hopes and prayers that his conditioning improves and that he can put up serviceable LT play, which he has yet to prove. It's all hopes and dreams. I don't want to bank our season on that.

This shouldn't be about the ceiling of our OL play, it's about going with what works and winning 3 games.
Don’t get me wrong: I think Thuney will be the starter at LT in the playoffs and I’m fine with that. But TheGuardian’s complete minimization of basic facts matters here. Moving Thuney there with Caliendo at LG and sacrificing our running game while changing our offense to a quick-release version of Mahomes could win us a SB. Or it could end up limiting Reid’s creativity and find that it’s something other DCs are able to adjust to in the playoffs.

We shouldn’t overstate how good Thuney has been there.
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Can you walk me through your assessment of Thuney’s performance at LT in light of the fact that the game against Pittsburgh was Mahomes’ fastest time to throw in his entire career and the game against Houston was his fastest since early in the 2021 season? Please walk me through how that’s a testament to the success of the line - and LT in particular - rather than overtly trying to mask its deficiencies.

Thanks in advance.
Sure.

In the 3 games that Joe started at LT Pat was sacked 1 time.

In the previous 6 games he was sacked a total of 23 times.

You have to go back to 3rd game of the season to find a game where he wasn't sacked at all, all year...until Thuney slid over to tackle.

That's the only thing I need to know, dipshit.

If they changed the offense to help the protection out as well, GREAT! The fact is, things got better and everyone knows it.

You're welcome in advance.
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But if he can solve that LT problem for us next year and buy us time to develop someone behind him...
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Don’t get me wrong: I think Thuney will be the starter at LT in the playoffs and I’m fine with that. But TheGuardian’s complete minimization of basic facts matters here. Moving Thuney there with Caliendo at LG and sacrificing our running game while changing our offense to a quick-release version of Mahomes could win us a SB. Or it could end up limiting Reid’s creativity and find that it’s something other DCs are able to adjust to in the playoffs.

We shouldn’t overstate how good Thuney has been there.
So how did the offense look all season with Thuney at LG? And horrible tackle play....

No, we don't have a serviceable tackle right now out side of Thuney and DJ AINT IT. that's the point.
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Don’t get me wrong: I think Thuney will be the starter at LT in the playoffs and I’m fine with that. But TheGuardian’s complete minimization of basic facts matters here. Moving Thuney there with Caliendo at LG and sacrificing our running game while changing our offense to a quick-release version of Mahomes could win us a SB. Or it could end up limiting Reid’s creativity and find that it’s something other DCs are able to adjust to in the playoffs.

We shouldn’t overstate how good Thuney has been there.
Yeah I don't love agreeing with Guardian lol.

Brady beat us on way to a SB with a basic quick release offense and solid defense. It can be done. It's only 3 games.
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The good news is Andy and Mahomes will be very smart about this and do what's best for the offense. It would be fun to have a binary poll and see how well this board can predict that decision based only on where things stand now.
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Yeah I don't love agreeing with Guardian lol.

Brady beat us on way to a SB with a basic quick release offense and solid defense. It can be done. It's only 3 games.
Yea, only three games and I doubt we face any body too tough.
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