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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:14 AM   #2356
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:25 AM   #2357
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:31 AM   #2358
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No. I just do Robot Investing through Betterment. I'd like to dabble in individual stocks at some point though.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:29 AM   #2359
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:00 AM   #2360
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:02 AM   #2361
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I keep a little in EJ just so I can get input from people that do this for a living. I think its a good investment. They make money when you make money.
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Was talking with Edward Jones on Friday. They just laughed at any worries. You sell you lose. Hang on and add more and all will be fine.
My buddy manages the coop and I’m trying to remember exactly wheat he said but I’m pretty sure dudes still have corn from 2012.

I’m not saying I disagree with you but the alternative is definitely possible.
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My buddy manages the coop and I’m trying to remember exactly wheat he said but I’m pretty sure dudes still have corn from 2012.

I’m not saying I disagree with you but the alternative is definitely possible.
How do you guys engage in futures / forwards deals?
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I'm not even that worried about US markets.

Still holding that ****ing IQ stock and waiting for china to un**** itself.

That company is doing SO WELL and in three days they release Q3 earnings. GIMME BACK MY MONEY!

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Still holding that ****ing IQ stock and waiting for china to un**** itself.
Tariffs bud. Likely to get worse.
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How do you guys engage in futures / forwards deals?
Lots of different options out there.

As far as I go, I typically try hedge up front (sell contracts on the board) up to my MPCI (Multi Peril Crop Insurance) guarantees. I'll push that if it's fairly close to harvest and I'm confident I have a better crop out there. The elevators will convert them to forward contracts if the basis is favorable prior to harvest. Typically, I chicken out and sign basis contracts if that is the case. A lot of times if you don't grow it (hail or whatever), it's easier to get out of a basis contract than a forward one where you have to eat shit on the whole thing.

Other options are Hedge to Arrive a the elevator. That is essentially the elevator selling the contract for you. You set the basis at a later date in which it is a forward contract.

You can also buy puts. That will keep you from making margin calls but I'm too cheap to buy the time value, which always eats your ass. Every time I've the market went against the physical and bought puts, they've yielded around half of what it would have been if I'd sold contracts. If market goes up, sure there wouldn't have margin calls, but the premium is unrecoverable. Every time I buy puts instead of selling contracts, I'm pissed off about it.

I try to keep most things on the board because I'm chickenshit. However this year, I'd have gotten my shit wrecked on wheat. I zeroed out A LOT of acres with hail and would have had to pay a lot if I hadn't kept it on the board.

I've also on occasion sold the physical grain and bought it back on the board to stop storage and essentially retain ownership. That's technically not a hedge, but there is feasibly little chance you'd get caught by the IRS. (speculative losses are limited to 3,000. Hedging losses are not limited)

Like I said, there are a heck of a lot of ways to do it, but that's largely what I do.
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Tariffs bud. Likely to get worse.
I thought it was a Netflix-type company? Tariffs wouldn't affect that.

I would think it would be just getting washed out in the **** for all that the tariffs are causing if it had a basis in fundementals.

Unless I'm missing something.
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