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Discussion: All things Broncos.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

You really thought you have a better RB than Hunt?

Not now. If we get Saquon, yeah.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Not now. If we get Saquon, yeah.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Your guy was given a chance during the regular season...

Good Lord, Knowmo.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Your guy was given a chance during the regular season...

Stop embarrassing yourself you ****ing moronic homer

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

You know he thinks they have a better guy at every single position than KC does. Especially QB.

KC is better at RB, TE, RG, #2 WR, and RT.

[Bewbies]

I can't even with this....

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Not now. If we get Saquon, yeah.

The only way that happens is if NYG takes a QB (or trade out for a team who does) and CLE trades out of 4 for a team wanting a QB.

Or you trade up to 2 to grab him in front of Cleveland at 4.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

KC is better at RB, TE, RG, #2 WR, and RT.

QB and it won’t be close. . RT is better, Hill and Watkins will both be better than old Thomas and Sanders. Eric Berry is better than any safety you got. Both Hitchens and Ragland will both be better than your ILBs

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Eric Berry is better than any safety you got. Both Hitchens and Ragland will both be better than your ILBs

I've already acknowledged that Berry, Hitchens, and Jones are better than the guys Denver has at those same positions. Ragland and Davis are basically the same guy, IMO.

[Mother****erJones]

Just ban this reerun so we can at least have a realistic discussion and not deal with this twat

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Just ban this reerun so we can at least have a realistic discussion and not deal with this twat

Or let Dane have another go at him.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I've already acknowledged that Berry, Hitchens, and Jones are better than the guys Denver has at those same positions. Ragland and Davis are basically the same guy, IMO.

Ok but you don’t have anyone as good at RT or C. Not to mention Keenum isn’t better than Mahomes. Not at least at the end of the year. Mahomes has far superior talent

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

KC wins the argument when it comes to high quality young players. Denver still has the better roster, but their good, young players aren't Pro Bowlers (yet) they're just good.

Holy shit

Mahomes > anybody you have
Hunt > anybody you have
Watkins = Thomas
Hill > Sanders
Fisher > Bolles
Our LGs < Leary
Morse = Paradis
LDT > anybody you have
Schwartz > anybody you have
Kelce > anybody you have

Jones > anybody you have
Williams = Peko
RNR = the rapist or walker
Kpass/Ford > Ray/Barrett
Hitchens > better than anybody you have
Ragland > Davis
Houston < Miller
Fuller > Roby
Amerson < Harris
Nelson > Brock
Berry > Stewart
Sorensen = Simmons

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I've already acknowledged that Berry, Hitchens, and Jones are better than the guys Denver has at those same positions. Ragland and Davis are basically the same guy, IMO.

Davis is complete trash that Elway paid like a good starter because he has no clue how to manage the cap or evaluate talent.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

Dude, 0-5 IS 0-5 - No matter how YOU look at it. Again, when it was in your favor, you had no such vision. In fact - you took your PA / Arrogant approach as usual and suggested that it would be highly unlikely that KC would ever return the favor. You even instructed me /us to get back to you when KC did. So, here we are and you're making excuses.

Not sure I said it was highly unlikely that KC would ever go on a run... but, let's say I did. I have no issues at all with the talk track happening now. My comment about the two close games in that 0-5 streak was simply to suggest Denver wasn't far from snapping the streak, even last year.

For me, teams rally around leadership and that's especially true at the QB position. Denver has only had two 'leaders' at the position since 2010 - Tebow and Manning. Players rally around those guys. Keenum has done nothing to put himself in that category outside of last year. Yes, the Vikings had/have a hell of a team, but from what I've read - the players connected to him and he played the leader role fairly well.

You get a QB that has leadership ability and things can improve. I think he brings that... we'll soon find out. If I were you guys, I'd totally mock my comments that they can win 10 games as well, just don't forget my other part of that statement. It's not all about QB or Keenum - they have work to do at other spots to make that quest for 10 wins a reality in 2018.

I've never said Keenum alone can do it... he won't repeat 2017 without other upgrades.

The Chiefs have a ton of talent on offense and some question marks on defense. They're not equally balanced with badassery on both sides of the ball. Denver lost Talib, remains to be seen how they play without him. I don't think the world is lost and I believe it was exactly the right time to move on and start fresh with younger guys. They changed the scheme with Wade gone and that impacted how they played.

Broncos could easily finish 3rd or 4th again - all depends on what they do with the $23M in cap space and draft picks. I'm sure they're working the phones for trade options, so we'll see how that goes.

Elway has also not been perfect, you've never heard me say he has been... I do trust him and I trust the process. They went SB or Bust with Manning, and they've achieved both. In hindsight, they made poor choices the last couple of years and it's burned them.

What Elway does now will define his legacy as the leader of that team from the front office... they need to make better decisions in the draft, without question. In about a month, we'll see if they're still playing from the same script.

At this point, it's KC's division to lose... they're in a great position to win 12 games if the defense doesn't fall apart. Everyone else is playing catch up.

My goals for the Broncos this year --- finish above .500 and the only way they do that is to upgrade the OL, find a good 3rd RB for a consistent ground threat and find a capable pass catching TE. Jake Butt could be the guy, but he's an unkown, so they need someone else to be in the mix. They'll address the 3rd WR either in the draft or FA.

They have a handful of moves still left to be made, but they're not far off from realistically being able to win 10 games.

At home, they will take on the Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, Browns, Steelers, Rams, Seahawks, and Texans.

On the road, they will face the Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Cardinals, 49ers, and Jets.

They split with the Chargers and Raiders last year and were swept by KC (close to splitting) ... go 3-3 in the division in 2018 and things are headed in the right direction.

They have to protect the home field and win 5 at minimum. That means they have to win all the divisional home games (3 wins). Add to that, the Browns, Seahawks and Texans... those teams have their own bag of issues too and it's not unrealistic to think they win those 3 games or just 2 of them.

On the road - Bengals, Ravens, Cardinals and Jets ... 4 games against teams with question marks and issues. Anything can happen.

Protect home field in the division (3), beat the Browns, Texans, Bengals, Ravens, Cardinals and Jets... that's 9 wins. Again - not really jumping the shark there.