Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 157

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

smithandrew051 · 08-23-2023, 05:11 PM

Getting younger and cheaper is normally a pretty good idea when Mahomes is your QB.

I wouldn’t hate a trade. It’s the smarter long term play.

Sucks for this year, but at least we just won it all.

I’ll just trust whatever the Chiefs do.

RaidersOftheCellar · 08-23-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I mean, let’s be honest…

Say Jones holds out until week 8, then comes back and helps the Chiefs secure the #1 seed and another SB title. Then gets tagged and traded for nice capital in 2024.

Frankly, that's what I'd do at this point. KC doesn't need to give in to anyone's demands but Mahomes. It would suck for a (hopefully) ascending defense to take a step back for several weeks, but KC's defenses have ranged from bad to average every year of the Mahomes era, and they've never won fewer than 12 games.

I fully trust Veach to field a competent defense in '24, with or without Jones.

Sofa King · 08-23-2023, 05:27 PM

Lol. That Farzin guy had this on Facebook.

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I was laughing at his fantasies about Chris Jones' dick. Which goes for you or any other homos that make similar comments. Has zilch to do with DC. Maybe you should quit being a ****ing Nancy.

Don't like dick jokes?

**PHOG** · 08-23-2023, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I mean, let’s be honest…

Say Jones holds out until week 8, then comes back and helps the Chiefs secure the #1 seed and another SB title. Then gets tagged and traded for nice capital in 2024.

Some fans of other teams will look at it in hindsight and believe it was planned that way all along to give the Chiefs some sort of advantage or salary cap circumvention.

Yeah, would suck for them, wouldn't it?

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2023, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I mean, let’s be honest…

Say Jones holds out until week 8, then comes back and helps the Chiefs secure the #1 seed and another SB title. Then gets tagged and traded for nice capital in 2024.

Some fans of other teams will look at it in hindsight and believe it was planned that way all along to give the Chiefs some sort of advantage or salary cap circumvention.

I can already hear Florio's high-pitched whiney ranting the day after the Super Bowl

"HERE'S A TEAM THAT TAKES AWAY MONEY FROM ITS BEST PLAYERS AND STUFFS IT IN THE OWNER'S POCKETS! AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR IT ANYMORE!!! IT'S NOT SMART! IT'S EVIL!"

**fan4ever** · 08-23-2023, 05:53 PM

Not sure I remember correctly but after we gave Justin Houston a big contract didn't he pretty much mail it in after that?

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2023, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

Not sure I remember correctly but after we gave Justin Houston a big contract didn't he pretty much mail it in after that?

Hard to say. He got that weird misdiagnosed knee thing like midseason right after signing the extension.

duncan_idaho · 08-23-2023, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

I can already hear Florio's high-pitched whiney ranting the day after the Super Bowl

"HERE'S A TEAM THAT TAKES AWAY MONEY FROM ITS BEST PLAYERS AND STUFFS IT IN THE OWNER'S POCKETS! AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR IT ANYMORE!!! IT'S NOT SMART! IT'S EVIL!"

THEY WOULDNT PAY HIM WHAT HES WORTH AND THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT.

THEY WON AND TOOM ADVANTAGE OF HIM AND NOW ARE SET UP EVEN BETTER WITH THE CAP SPACE THEY GOT BACK AND THE PICKS THEY GOT FOR HIM. THE CBA IS SO UNFAIR!

tredadda · 08-23-2023, 06:40 PM

While having Jones all 17 games would be nice it's looking like that will not be a reality. No different than had he suffered a season ending injury. It is what it is at this point. KC will adjust and keep moving forward.

BWillie · 08-23-2023, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

Not sure I remember correctly but after we gave Justin Houston a big contract didn't he pretty much mail it in after that?

Houston was still pretty useful after he left Kansas City.

Arch Stanton · 08-23-2023, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I mean, let’s be honest…

Say Jones holds out until week 8, then comes back and helps the Chiefs secure the #1 seed and another SB title. Then gets tagged and traded for nice capital in 2024.

Some fans of other teams will look at it in hindsight and believe it was planned that way all along to give the Chiefs some sort of advantage or salary cap circumvention.

If it shakes down like that, the NFL will make it illegal during the offseason meetings.

Coochie liquor · 08-23-2023, 07:32 PM

I want to make more money. The best way I can think to do that is to make less money. Makes all the sense in the world. Glad I didn’t purchase that CJ95 jersey last year. **** him.

Stewie · 08-23-2023, 08:04 PM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — It’s the fourth quarter of offseason preparation for the reigning Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs, who have been practicing for the 2023 season for more than 30 days.

All-Pro defensive tackle Chris Jones hasn’t been present for any of it. He also skipped the team’s offseason program, including the mandatory minicamp.

There’s now roughly two weeks remaining before the Sept. 7 season opener against Detroit at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium, a game that will air on KSHB 41, and the Chiefs appear no closer to resolving Jones’ contract holdout than when camp started.

“There’s been no communication, so I don’t know what’s going to go on there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said Wednesday. “But whatever happens, happens. I mean if he’s not there, the game goes on, right? So that’s how it works.”

Jones has one year remaining on a four-year extension he signed before the 2020 season, but he’s reportedly seeking an extension that would make him at least the second-highest paid defensive tackle in NFL history.

“They have to communicate and do their thing,” Reid said of Jones’ representation and the Chiefs’ front office, “and there has just been no communication.”

Quarterback Patrick Mahomes, who is the leader of the offense with Jones positioned as the leader of the defense, said the contract impasse has lasted longer than he expected, but he understands.

“I don’t think anyone expected him not to be here now, but that’s part of the contract negotiation stuff, so I’m not looking down on him or anything like that,” Mahomes said. “He has stuff that he’s trying to get done that he feels like he needs to get done right now.”

'You want to hit the regular season rolling'

Jones matched his career-best with 15 1/2 sacks last season, seeming to vibe with new defensive line coach Joe Cullen. He also notched the first postseason sacks of his career.

Mahomes called Jones “a vital part of this organization” and said he’s eager to get him back in the locker room.

“I know that contract stuff is hard to talk about because everyone wants to make money for their entire family and everything like that, but I know how much Chris loves the Chiefs,” Mahomes said. “He loves being a part of this organization, so I just try to stay out of it and tell Chris how much we love him and that whenever he does come back he’ll be welcomed with open arms. We know he is preparing himself so that whenever he does get back, he can be that dominant player that he always has been.”

Unlike Reid, Mahomes said he does stay in regular communication with Jones, who is “in good spirits.”

“He’s a guy that loves football — like I said he loves playing for the Chiefs — so this is a hard time for all players when this stuff comes up because you want to play, you want to be out there,” Mahomes said. “But at the same time you want to take care of your family, so it’s finding that right spot of where you think you need to be at that time. It doesn’t hurt his relationship with any of us. We respect his decision. At the same time, when he comes back, we’ll welcome him with open arms and know that he can be a pivotal teammate to help try to make another run at the Super Bowl.”

Reid lauded the rest of the defensive line group’s work during camp without Jones.

“It’s similar if someone gets hurt,” he said. “If someone gets hurt, you have to go play and that’s the approach they’ve taken, ‘Chris isn’t here; opportunity for us to play’ and they’ve worked their tails off there. It’s been impressive watching.”

Kansas City wraps up the preseason at noon Saturday against Cleveland at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium.

**jjchieffan** · 08-23-2023, 08:08 PM

I found an article with 4 NFC teams that would be good trade candidates and their argument to support said teams. It's long, so I'm breaking it up into 1 post for each of the teams.

4 NFC Teams That Should Trade for Chiefs All-Pro DL Chris Jones

Detroit Lions
The Lions had the No. 6 offense last season. But their defense ranked 32nd with their rushing defense ranking 29th and their pass rush recording 39 sacks, tied with several other clubs in the middle of the pack. Jones would boost Dan Campbell’s kneecap-biting squad, and he would form a potent 1-2 combo with third-year EDGE rusher Aidan Hutchinson.

Detroit ranks sixth in cap space and could be the best team in the NFC North this season. Aaron Rodgers is out in Green Bay, and the Minnesota Vikings are in a transitional phase.

They are also in the NFC, which never hurts in trade speculation.

The Lions would have to shed some salary to remain under the salary cap and complete this deal. But, if they do, it could push their trajectory even further upward in their pursuit of the postseason.

View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
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Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $-1570099	KANSAS CITY, Mo. — It’s the fourth quarter of offseason preparation for the reigning Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs, who have been practicing for the 2023 season for more than 30 days. All-Pro defensive tackle Chris Jones hasn’t been present for any of it. He also skipped the team’s offseason program, including the mandatory minicamp. There’s now roughly two weeks remaining before the Sept. 7 season opener against Detroit at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium, a game that will air on KSHB 41, and the Chiefs appear no closer to resolving Jones’ contract holdout than when camp started. “There’s been no communication, so I don’t know what’s going to go on there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said Wednesday. “But whatever happens, happens. I mean if he’s not there, the game goes on, right? So that’s how it works.” Jones has one year remaining on a four-year extension he signed before the 2020 season, but he’s reportedly seeking an extension that would make him at least the second-highest paid defensive tackle in NFL history. “They have to communicate and do their thing,” Reid said of Jones’ representation and the Chiefs’ front office, “and there has just been no communication.” Quarterback Patrick Mahomes, who is the leader of the offense with Jones positioned as the leader of the defense, said the contract impasse has lasted longer than he expected, but he understands. “I don’t think anyone expected him not to be here now, but that’s part of the contract negotiation stuff, so I’m not looking down on him or anything like that,” Mahomes said. “He has stuff that he’s trying to get done that he feels like he needs to get done right now.” 'You want to hit the regular season rolling' Jones matched his career-best with 15 1/2 sacks last season, seeming to vibe with new defensive line coach Joe Cullen. He also notched the first postseason sacks of his career. Mahomes called Jones “a vital part of this organization” and said he’s eager to get him back in the locker room. “I know that contract stuff is hard to talk about because everyone wants to make money for their entire family and everything like that, but I know how much Chris loves the Chiefs,” Mahomes said. “He loves being a part of this organization, so I just try to stay out of it and tell Chris how much we love him and that whenever he does come back he’ll be welcomed with open arms. We know he is preparing himself so that whenever he does get back, he can be that dominant player that he always has been.” Unlike Reid, Mahomes said he does stay in regular communication with Jones, who is “in good spirits.” “He’s a guy that loves football — like I said he loves playing for the Chiefs — so this is a hard time for all players when this stuff comes up because you want to play, you want to be out there,” Mahomes said. “But at the same time you want to take care of your family, so it’s finding that right spot of where you think you need to be at that time. It doesn’t hurt his relationship with any of us. We respect his decision. At the same time, when he comes back, we’ll welcome him with open arms and know that he can be a pivotal teammate to help try to make another run at the Super Bowl.” Reid lauded the rest of the defensive line group’s work during camp without Jones. “It’s similar if someone gets hurt,” he said. “If someone gets hurt, you have to go play and that’s the approach they’ve taken, ‘Chris isn’t here; opportunity for us to play’ and they’ve worked their tails off there. It’s been impressive watching.” Kansas City wraps up the preseason at noon Saturday against Cleveland at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium.
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