Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Rey's proficiency using The Force could be easily explained with some family background.

He picked the one back ground choice that makes her entire story arc seem bogus.

Please point me to the line, scene, excerpt, whatever in Star Wars Canon (not fan theory bull shit), that says force can only manifest itself in decendents of other force users.

I haven't read or seen all there is to read/see in the Star Wars canon. Maybe you are referring to something I don't know about. If so, please let me know because this is such a major plot melting point for you and it seems completely baseless to me.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

She's a ****ing Junker what Prior combat Skill ?

They both did the same amount of work killing the praetorian guards.

Kylo should still be loads stronger than she is.

Did you watch the movie at all? Kylo was fighting off two or three of them at a time. She wasn’t.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

That would have required him doing something fans wanted.

I love how you've dubbed yourself the voice of the "fans".

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Did you watch the movie at all? Kylo was fighting off two or three of them at a time. She wasn’t.

She had also just got tossed around like a rag doll from snoke.

And kylo needed her help.

It's almost a running joke at this point she's stronger than Kylo ren it's not even up for debate.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by temper11

I love how you've dubbed yourself the voice of the "fans".

We are gonna play that game...?

I'm sorry let me make it super specific that would have required him doing something Fan's who have been debating TFA on youtube for 2 YEARS!!!! wanted.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by temper11

Please point me to the line, scene, excerpt, whatever in Star Wars Canon (not fan theory bull shit), that says force can only manifest itself in decendents of other force users.

I haven't read or seen all there is to read/see in the Star Wars canon. Maybe you are referring to something I don't know about. If so, please let me know because this is such a major plot melting point for you and it seems completely baseless to me.

Skywalker Bloodline ?

Anakin Luke Kylo and I guess now Leia.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Skywalker Bloodline ?

Anakin Luke Kylo and I guess now Leia.

The fact that it exists in a family bloodline does not preclude it from existing in others.

For example... the mannings are a family strong in football abilities but there are plenty of professional athletes who come from non athletic families. You could do the same with musicians or scholars etc etc.

Is that it? The Skywalkers. That's all you have?

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by temper11

The fact that it exists in a family bloodline does not preclude it from existing in others.

For example... the mannings are a family strong in football abilities but there are plenty of professional athletes who come from non athletic families. You could do the same with musicians or scholars etc etc.

Is that it? The Skywalkers. That's all you have?

if I'm only allowed to use movies what else is there ?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

if I'm only allowed to use movies what else is there ?

No... i said show me the passage in anything that is canon.

In fact, i literally just read something at lunch from the novel "ahsoka" (canon) that completely refutes your premise that force users must come from "force bloodlines".

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Fish

It's not even his, he stole that post from reddit. Again....

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/co...a_modern_star/

Go **** yourself. I didn't claim it was mine.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

if I'm only allowed to use movies what else is there ?

Here is a snippet from the novel "Ahsoka" (recognized as Canon).

"Ahsoka was about to shooo them out when a stack of crates that a couple of the kids were playing on wobbled and started to fall... The numbness she had worked so hard to maintain since Order 66 remained intact, but she hadn't watched mutely as the crates fell, the children screaming as they fell, too. She'd acted.

And then the screaming stopped. The crates settled gently on the ground, and the children settled just as gently on top of them. The other kids stared unable to figure out what had happened, but Ahsoka knew. She got ready to run. She looked around and saw little Hedala Fardi, too small to be included in the game, standing just clear of the crates with a fascinated look on her face. "You know you're not supposed to play out here," Ahsoka said, hoping to head off any awdward questions the kids might have had. "You were almost crushed by falling crates. That's no way for a Fardi to go out!"

They made Ahsoka swear not to give them up... They never mentioned it again, and Ahsoka was fairly certain they hadn't even noticed their brush with physical impossibility. She watched Hedala closely after that. She was certain the the child was the only one who'd fully seen and understood what Ahsoka had done. Three days later, she watched with some horror as Hedala, left alone by the older kids, casually moved a small stone from one side of a doorway to the other without laying so much as a finger on it."

She should have done something. She should have told the girl's family and helped get her off-world. But she had no idea how to hide a Force-sensitive child from the Empire. She could barely hide herself."

So this little girl simply watches as Ahsoka is able to catch and lower gently, objects without physically acting on them. And then she is able to, BY HERSELF, learn to move a stone with the force.

This shoots down two of your (Oaklandhater) theories that you must be trained to use the force, and force users must come from force lineage.

It seems in every example that we have, that it only takes a small nudge to allow someone to tap into an ability that is just there for some and not others. We saw it with Luke, being able to blindly deflect the blasts from the training bot on just his second attempt. We saw it with Anakin able to not only navigate safely, but win at pod racing at an impossible age, when no other adult humans seems to be able to do it. Rey, when Kylo tries to extract information from her and in doing so, introduces her to an ability that she didn't know she had - and then immediately she starts testing the boundaries of what she can do with it (getting the storm trooper to unlock her restraints). Again, when Leia uses it to save herself, and finally, when the little boy at the end of TLJ force grabs the broom... much in the same way little Hedali Fardi above did with the rock. No proud family lineage of force users. Just a gift that she, nor even her own family, knew she possessed.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

We are gonna play that game...?

I'm sorry let me make it super specific that would have required him doing something Fan's who have been debating TFA on youtube for 2 YEARS!!!! wanted.

So the director of a movie should just scout for fan theories and pick the best one? He has no creative license to do what he thinks is good?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So the director of a movie should just scout for fan theories and pick the best one? He has no creative license to do what he thinks is good?

He clearly ****ed up...............

[BleedingRed]

Just so people understand, the "Hyper Jump" that destroyed the ships....... Uh... Again why didn't the rebels just do this to both death stars?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Just so people understand, the "Hyper Jump" that destroyed the ships....... Uh... Again why didn't the rebels just do this to both death stars?

They were in a desperate situation and the cruiser they were on was getting destroyed anyways. It’s not like they have this never ending supply of ships to crash into shit.