The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Booooo... The embedded auto play music sucks.

Yes, but there is "mute."

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

sorry man I"m just sick of us seeming like we don't care and go the cheap route all the time.

heck we have 30 million under the cap can we please be agressive?


rivera I like him reminds me of jeff fisher and I like him I"d hope he'd bring in a good d coordinator and oc.

I agree...

(but cap space has nothing to do with this part.)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Booooo... The embedded auto play music sucks.

No shit. KICK TO CROTCH!!!!!

[chiefscafan]

ok on the rivera kick who do you think he'd bring in as oc and dc just currious hypothetically speaking

[the Talking Can]

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/37370434.html

January 2009

Lerner defends sequence of hiring

POSTED: 09:44 p.m. EST, Jan 09, 2009

Now that he's landed his coach in Eric Mangini, Browns owner Randy Lerner vowed to be ''thorough and thoughtful'' in his search for a general manager.

That means widening the scope of his search beyond Baltimore Ravens director of pro personnel George Kokinis, a close friend of Mangini's whom he's scheduled to interview Sunday.

''If George Kokinis is the right guy, he's getting hired,'' Lerner said by telephone Friday afternoon from his Long Island home. But he added, ''I'm not rubber-stamping anything,'' and said he won't hire Kokinis on Sunday night.

Lerner seemed aware of recent criticism that he's going about the process backward by hiring the coach first. Many have suggested that Lerner should have found the right general manager and allowed him to assist or lead the search.

''Fans say I don't get it, I'm not a football guy, but I've been doing this six years in a row,'' Lerner said. ''When you think about it every day of your life, you do pick up one or two things. The Browns are trying to become a legitimate organization with checks and balances, roles and responsibilities.''

Lerner said he felt more urgency to hire a coach.

''The GM operates in a spring cycle — talent evaluation, free agency, the draft board, getting rid of players, negotiating. The GM has a certain time of year, while the coach operates on the calendar year,'' Lerner said.

Lerner didn't seem to feel that a new general manager would have offered much to the process.....



....Cleveland.com reported that Atlanta Falcons President Rich McKay no longer is interested in the Browns' top football job and Kokinis is not sure whether he'll leave Baltimore. But Lerner mentioned other possibilities like Nick Caserio, a Lyndhurst, Ohio, native and John Carroll University graduate who is the New England Patriots' director of player personnel, and Charley Casserly, who spent 16 years as a GM with the Washington Redskins and Houston Texans and now works for CBS Sports.

''I'm talking to more people and scouring around more stones. Young guys like Nick Caserio, older guys, middle guys like Charley Casserly, there's a lot of them,'' Lerner said. ''There's much more to finding a guy when you have a structure with a club president. Clubs like the Colts have a different approach.''

Browns President Mike Keenan handles the team's business operations, while Indianapolis Colts President Bill Polian oversees football and administration.

Former Denver Broncos General Manager Ted Sundquist, fired last March, has expressed interest in the job.

''I don't know Ted. He's out there,'' Lerner said.

Another name that has been mentioned is Polian's son Chris, the Colts' vice president of football operations.

''Interesting,'' Lerner said. ''That would be a rookie situation.''

Lerner said he never got into contract talks with Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli, the second man he interviewed after Mangini but not seen as an option now. Pioli also interviewed with the Kansas City Chiefs.

''We talked for hours about football organizations,'' Lerner said. ''Money never came into the conversation with Scott.''

As for reports that Pioli made exorbitant demands, Lerner said, ''That's completely and utterly untrue.''....

[Thig Lyfe]

I didn't know it would auto play!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I feel we're getting all worked up into panic mode, when we don't know a damned thing yet.

Take a deep breath, count to 10... close your eyes and repeat to yourself, "Carl Peterson is gone."

Have some patience. Whatever happens, it aint gonna get worse.

Famous last words.

[chiefscafan]

so is it definite he is going back to New England?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

so is it definite he is going back to New England?

Not yet.

This just in.

Originally Posted by Random poster on a message board
Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight, but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

[JimNasium]

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[chiefscafan]

ok we should retire that rumor please lol

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

so is it definite he is going back to New England?

Heh, if that's the case, I completely missed it.

Unless I'm mistaken, the long wait just has people losing their minds and jumping to conclusions.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

I didn't know it would auto play!

Dude.

Ditch that shit, or the red boxes start piling up.

[chiefscafan]

yeah it's kind of driving me crazy too

[Manila-Chief]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

A couple of other boards are saying that John Clayton just reported that Pioli is probably staying in NE and brought up Chris Polian as a possiblility.

Here is the article on ESPN.

"Edwards in limbo: Herm Edwards was at work Friday in Kansas City attending a personnel meeting. While the organization awaits word on whether Scott Pioli is in or out as the general manager, Edwards remains the Chiefs' head coach. Owner Clark Hunt would like to find a scenario to keep him, but he might lose that chance depending on the general manager he hires. The longer the Chiefs go without any kind of announcement that Pioli is hired, the chances increase that he might just stay in New England.

Anyone hear this?

It seems like an after thought while he was talking about Herm twisting in the wind. Sounds like it is a guess and that he is not giving out info.

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd tend to disagree. I'd assume it's about money in the end, my gut says Clark will give whatever control he wants, but Clark not being willing to pay a GM $6 million a year seems smart financially. Not being willing to overpay obscenely is not being cheap.

I'm not sure it is about money. Shanny was making $7M, so a GM ought to make more than the coach. I think Clark will have an adequate pay scale.

Relax: Clark said he wanted to interview several guys, and maybe he is doing that? We have no info about what he has done. Even the Pioli interview was a rumor. Let's relax and allow him time to do his job.

Now, if the Chiefs really did offer him a contract and it is taking this long for him to decide, then that is bad news. I'm on the Pioli bandwagon coz many football people have described him as the top choice.

But, there are other great choices out there. If Clark hires one of them I'll be okay. Hopefully, he will not hire a misfit (because he is cheap) who would keep Herm. In fact a test to determine if the new GM is qualified is what he does with Herm. So far I've like what I've heard from him. I'll impatiently wait for him.