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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:48 PM   #2311
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:48 PM   #2312
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I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the **** wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:53 PM   #2313
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I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the **** wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.
Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:55 PM   #2314
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Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.
Going to Columbia is a much better experience then going to see Mass St. hippies and announcers going ape shit over a last second win over NIU.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:57 PM   #2315
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Going to Columbia is a much better experience then going to see Mass St. hippies and announcers going ape shit over a last second win over NIU.
Ignorance is your strong point, by a mile.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:59 PM   #2316
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Ignorance is your strong point, by a mile.
Fine, there are not hippies on Mass St and your announcer didn't go apeshit over a last second win against NIU.

*throwing up hands*
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:59 PM   #2317
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Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.
Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

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What Neinas should have said is that John Q. Mizzou Fan can get in the car and drive to Ames, Manhattan and Lawrence. Which interestingly enough, are the three worst road trips in the conference.

Otherwise, fan travel is pretty similar.

Fayetteville is closer than Lincoln was.

Oxford, Nashville and Lexington are similar distances from Columbia as Norman and Stillwater.

The entire SEC, sans Florida and SC are closer than all of the B12 schools in Texas.

I think Neinas is underestimating the Mizzou fanbase. If I were a Tigers fan, I'd drive 600 miles to see Mizzou play in Tuscaloosa or Knoxville before driving 300 to see them play in Ames.

It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:05 PM   #2318
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Fine, there are not hippies on Mass St and your announcer didn't go apeshit over a last second win against NIU.

*throwing up hands*
Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:07 PM   #2319
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Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?
I absolutely have. It is a fun place to be. I like Liberty hall and Free State brewing company. I have been tapped to do photography on campus.

Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football which is funny because it seems you agree. You went from defending the football destination cred in Lawrence to propping up its academia. That is fine and all...the campus isn't that impressive but the area absolutely is.
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Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:





It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.
You insulted going to Lawrence, so Stewie responded by comparing Columbia, anyway that is what I read.

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I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the **** wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:09 PM   #2321
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Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football.
It is when you are the opposing team.
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I thought OTWP was a non-combatant in this one.

I didn't think he had any particular allegiance to MU or KU.
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It is when you are the opposing team.
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On an unrelated note, I'd like to thank K-State for graciously allowing Missouri to be a part of the telecast this Saturday.
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:12 PM   #2324
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Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:





It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.
You posted that some Big XII schools were Purgatory... like the SEC has these gleaming bastions of milk and honey. Whatever. I posted that Columbia is no destination, in fact, their own fans don't go to games at the USC flunkie arena.

My prediction is that MU stays because the smart people know it's the right thing to do.
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. Unity.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to thank K-State for graciously allowing Missouri to be a part of the telecast this Saturday.
Quit dragging us down. Here, bring this with you this weekend....

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