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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:25 AM   #23161
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Pretty good?
Good enough to win a SB after you shell out that huge QB contract?

That’s the thing with guys that aren’t elite. It’s almost like you have to win while you have them on a rookie contract.

Elite QB’s like Mahomes transcend that.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:26 AM   #23162
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Good enough to win a SB after you shell out that huge QB contract?

That’s the thing with guys that aren’t elite. It’s almost like you have to win while you have them on a rookie contract.

Elite QB’s like Mahomes transcend that.
Sure, i'd think he would be.

I think he can be as good as Matt Ryan, he got to a SB.

It becomes tougher to win once they get paid, but it's possible.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:34 AM   #23163
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Sure, i'd think he would be.

I think he can be as good as Matt Ryan, he got to a SB.

It becomes tougher to win once they get paid, but it's possible.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:35 AM   #23164
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:54 AM   #23165
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That’s a stretch, but people are crowning this kid way too soon.

He has like 1 or 2 wins against a winning team.
The tape is in, and he's no Mahomes. defenses are going to come at him early and often and when they start getting to him he's going to crumble like a house of ****ing cards. Bank that shit.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:03 AM   #23166
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Sure, i'd think he would be.

I think he can be as good as Matt Ryan, he got to a SB.

It becomes tougher to win once they get paid, but it's possible.
So the best example you can come up with is a guy who didn’t even win a SB?

Yea, it can happen, but it’s extremely difficult. You almost have to have a HOF coach and a great front office to actually pull it off...and some luck.
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So the best example you can come up with is a guy who didn’t even win a SB?

Yea, it can happen, but it’s extremely difficult. You almost have to have a HOF coach and a great front office to actually pull it off...and some luck.
Wilson did it before he got paid playing a similar way as Watson.

It's hard to win a SB, period. Ryan came about as close as you can and i'm guessing things will normalize a bit now that the Pats run is coming to an end.

So yea, you need a good coach and a good front office. That's always been the case.
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Wilson did it before he got paid playing a similar way as Watson.

It's hard to win a SB, period. Ryan came about as close as you can and i'm guessing things will normalize a bit now that the Pats run is coming to an end.

So yea, you need a good coach and a good front office. That's always been the case.
So the same person that has emphasized time and time again how important it is to take advantage of a QB on a rookie contract disagrees about what exactly?

All I’m saying is, just “good” QB’s are fine while you have them on a rookie deal, but after you pay them it makes things WAY more difficult when they’re not great/elite.

It’s a problem I’m happy to say we likely won’t have.
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So the same person that has emphasized time and time again how important it is to take advantage of a QB on a rookie contract disagrees about what exactly?

All I’m saying is, good QB’s are fine while you have them on a rookie deal, but after you pay them it makes things WAY more difficult when they’re not great/elite.
It's definitely more difficult, but so much of it depends on the coach and front office. I don't know that I trust the Texans FO, I think BoB is a good enough coach but they seem to be in disarray in the FO.

As long as the Chiefs have Andy and Mahomes they'll be ok and be right there. It's just that it is gonna get a lot harder once he's making what he'll make.
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So the same person that has emphasized time and time again how important it is to take advantage of a QB on a rookie contract disagrees about what exactly?

All I’m saying is, just “good” QB’s are fine while you have them on a rookie deal, but after you pay them it makes things WAY more difficult when they’re not great/elite.

It’s a problem I’m happy to say we likely won’t have.
Coaching is the 2nd most important part to a team after QB. Andy has missed the playoff like 3 times in his 20 year career, all but one of those years without Pat.

But then again it’s Andy who held us back from a SB last season.
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Coaching is the 2ns most important part to a team after QB. Andy has missed the playoff like 3 times in his 20 year career, all but one of those years without Pat.

But then again it’s Andy who held us back from a SB last season.
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Coaching is the 2nd most important part to a team after QB. Andy has missed the playoff like 3 times in his 20 year career, all but one of those years without Pat.

But then again it’s Andy who held us back from a SB last season.
Andy is a weird way of spelling defense.
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Even if you want to say Andy was a reason, I disagree, but at least it’s not ridiculously unreasonable.

But saying it’s him who held us back?

Good grief what an awful take.
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