Are the Bills overhyped?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Update: Yes, the Bills were overhyped.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Just:13

As I mentioned weeks ago, the Dolphins are frauds. They’re the 2020 Steelers. Stacking wins against bad teams.

They lost to a 3rd string QB yesterday. By multiple scores. They have the Chargers and Bills next.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they fall to the 7th spot in the AFC playoff picture.

24% of Tua’s TD’s for the entire season came in 1 HALF of football in Sept. Outside of that one game, Tua has thrown a total of 3 TD’s and 3 INT’s against winning teams this season. Tua’s stats come from 11 TD’s and 0 INT against teams with a 19-41 combined record. #FinsUp #NFL

— Bills Stats & More (@Tickets_Buffalo) December 5, 2022

They already beat Buffalo once though.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by tredadda

They already beat Buffalo once though.

They beat a Bills team that was missing 9 starters, by 2 points.

Context.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Just:13

They beat a Bills team that was missing 9 starters, by 2 points.

Context.

So Buffalo should be 9-3 with an *? A loss is a loss regardless.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by tredadda

So Buffalo should be 9-3 with an *? A loss is a loss regardless.

The record is what it is.

But if you want to pretend that context doesn’t matter when discussing and analyzing football, might as well just shut the forum down. All we need is records and a schedule to show who beat who. Right?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Just:13

The record is what it is.

But if you want to pretend that context doesn’t matter when discussing and analyzing football, might as well just shut the forum down. All we need is records and a schedule to show who beat who. Right?

It doesn’t matter. Like chess no two games are the same.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

1 seed they can probably beat the Bengals

If they can lose to the Jets, I'm guessing they could lose to the Bengals too.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Just:13

As I mentioned weeks ago, the Dolphins are frauds. They’re the 2020 Steelers. Stacking wins against bad teams.

They lost to a 3rd string QB yesterday. By multiple scores. They have the Chargers and Bills next.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they fall to the 7th spot in the AFC playoff picture.

24% of Tua’s TD’s for the entire season came in 1 HALF of football in Sept. Outside of that one game, Tua has thrown a total of 3 TD’s and 3 INT’s against winning teams this season. Tua’s stats come from 11 TD’s and 0 INT against teams with a 19-41 combined record. #FinsUp #NFL

— Bills Stats & More (@Tickets_Buffalo) December 5, 2022

Obviously the Dolphins benefited from playing 5 bad teams in a row, no question about that.

Not sure Miami is quite as fraudulent as a Steelers team that had an aging, injured Big Ben mixed with a defensive head coach who has been stuck in the Dark Ages of football schemes, etc.

Miami has Tua in his prime, Tyreek in his prime, Waddle in his prime...pretty good young offensive coach running the show there as well. They are dangerous enough with their passing game to beat other teams in a shootout.

[Hammock Parties]

damn von is ****ed

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by tredadda

It doesn’t matter. Like chess no two games are the same.

huh? No one said they are…

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Obviously the Dolphins benefited from playing 5 bad teams in a row, no question about that.

Not sure Miami is quite as fraudulent as a Steelers team that had an aging, injured Big Ben mixed with a defensive head coach who has been stuck in the Dark Ages of football schemes, etc.

Miami has Tua in his prime, Tyreek in his prime, Waddle in his prime...pretty good young offensive coach running the show there as well. They are dangerous enough with their passing game to beat other teams in a shootout.

You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

If they can lose to the Jets, I'm guessing they could lose to the Bengals too.

This is true. Any team can lose to any team. But the Bills match up with the Bengals fairly well, so hopefully they can get the W.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Just:13

You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.

Dang that sounds harsh.

In any event, as long as they have those 2 elite speed WR's for him mixed with a good offensive minded coach, that Miami offense is probably going to be dangerous enough for some shootout games with everyone around the league.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Just:13

You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.

Nope.

Tua is Matt Ryan.

Which is what my comp was for him coming out, a guy that will never really be a top 5 QB but could win a MVP with the right coach and great supporting cast.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Nope.

Tua is Matt Ryan.

Which is what my comp was for him coming out, a guy that will never really be a top 5 QB but could win a MVP with the right coach and great supporting cast.

I can see why you would say Matt Ryan, but Ryan’s arm is (was?) stronger than Tua’s. And that’s saying something considering Ryan hasn’t ever had the strongest arm (it’s a good thing he played in a dome).

Watch Tua as he goes through December and January. The cold and windy games mess with him because he doesn’t have the strength to rip it. He relies on perfectly placed moon balls and mid corner drops and those are impossible in cold/wind without an elite arm.

Career Splits
September - November: 35 TD, 9 INT
December - January: 13 TD, 11 INT

[RaidersOftheCellar]

I didn't have much respect for Tua coming into this season, and I still don't think he's elite, but he's accurate and he has wide open receivers all over the field. He doesn't need to be the best QB in the league to put up a lot of points.