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Mile High Mania · 03-08-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Elway probably tried to offer Lynch and Talib for Mahomes

Deude ACTUALLY made an offer for Alex Smith...

Sounds like a legit offer, KC is crazy for passing on it.

RunKC · 03-08-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

We were comparing two specific games, not entire collegiate careers. I feel Darnold did more in his game than Mahomes did.

Mahomes did things in the Denver game that most QB’s can’t do. He also flashed franchise caliber play.

nychief · 03-08-2018, 08:21 AM

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Mile High Mania · 03-08-2018, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahomes did things in the Denver game that most QB’s can’t do. He also flashed franchise caliber play.

So, if he did things that most QBs can't do... he's already on a level few others will advance, and yet he only 'flashed' franchise caliber play? Which is it?

You know... he had a solid game, great win on the road in your first start. But, some of you (I believe) have been so starved for a great young drafted QB that you're overly bonerific about this kid putting shoes on or getting on the team bus. It's really kinda wild how mesmerized and awe inspiring that game was for so many of you.

Mile High Mania · 03-08-2018, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/...52479883956226

Well, who wouldn't want to just be released to go sign with the Patriots? Wonder how much interest they really have since they've already gone down that road once.

Mother****erJones · 03-08-2018, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, if he did things that most QBs can't do... he's already on a level few others will advance, and yet he only 'flashed' franchise caliber play? Which is it?

You know... he had a solid game, great win on the road in your first start. But, some of you (I believe) have been so starved for a great young drafted QB that you're overly bonerific about this kid putting shoes on or getting on the team bus. It's really kinda wild how mesmerized and awe inspiring that game was for so many of you.

A lot of writers gushed too. Including KCs beat writer who isn’t a fan of the Chiefs, but a long time Lions fan. Other media gush too. It’s ok, you’ll see this season he’s legit

TEX · 03-08-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, if he did things that most QBs can't do... he's already on a level few others will advance, and yet he only 'flashed' franchise caliber play? Which is it?

You know... he had a solid game, great win on the road in your first start. But, some of you (I believe) have been so starved for a great young drafted QB that you're overly bonerific about this kid putting shoes on or getting on the team bus. It's really kinda wild how mesmerized and awe inspiring that game was for so many of you.

If he had a horse head on his helmet, you would be all in...

Yes - we are starved. We also know SUCK. Believe me, if Mahomes showed signs of it, we'd be all over it. He didn't. He showed the complete opposite with half a team IN Denver. How many rookie QB's go to Denver and win? How many go in there and win their 1st NFL start? How many go to Denver and are pulled from the game, get inserted back for the last drive to win the game and succeed? When you consider all that, it's very easy, not wild, to see what many look at it as an awe-inspiring performance.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-08-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Darnold just looks awkward to me. Not just in delivery but his overall play. He moves erratically - and plays that way.

His throwing motion is awkward, but I feel he plays pretty composed. He's not skiddish in the pocket or anything. He's generally pretty accurate and doesn't have balls sail on him as often as some other guys.

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Allen is smooth, but doesnt have great pocket presence. Obviously has a cannon and looks the part, but he hasnt been super accurate or productive before. Not only that, but he doesnt have great field awareness. Is he all of a sudden going to find accuracy and game sense in the nfl? Questionable.

Allen is scary. I'd still take him though if the other 3 QB's were gone.

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Then Mayfield is short, cocky, and doesn't do anything particularly good. He had a lot of clean pockets and time to throw at OU. He also played basically only out of the gun. Accurate when he has time, but can he do it under pressure and in tighter windows consistently? Also how is he going to handle adversity- growing pains in the nfl? Will he handle criticism? I dont know, seems like too much of a hot head to me.

I think Mayfield takes football more seriously than the others. He's worked for everything he's gotten and he doesn't get enough credit for his arm strength and accuracy.

The only concern I have with Mayfield is that he was always so well protected and he's not going to get that in Denver. At least not early on.

staylor26 · 03-08-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, if he did things that most QBs can't do... he's already on a level few others will advance, and yet he only 'flashed' franchise caliber play? Which is it?

You know... he had a solid game, great win on the road in your first start. But, some of you (I believe) have been so starved for a great young drafted QB that you're overly bonerific about this kid putting shoes on or getting on the team bus. It's really kinda wild how mesmerized and awe inspiring that game was for so many of you.

Brian Baldinger, Chris Simms, Louis Riddick, the Good Morning Football crew etc. all felt the same way so you can pretend it’s just starving Chiefs fans if you want to. This goes back to before that game too.

Maybe you just can’t evaluate talent to save your ****ing life Mr. “We’ll see”

I’ve never heard you once make a prediction/projection on a young player, so I’m pretty sure that’s the case.

King_Chief_Fan · 03-08-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Absolute morons if they trade him to NE...of course, Denver doesn't consider themselves contenders with that thought process. Uh oh....

Contenders has eluded them the last couple of years and will continue. ..donkey fail and donkey homerism is entertaining at least
The remember when posts will be coming someday...soon

Mile High Mania · 03-08-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Brian Baldinger, Chris Simms, Louis Riddick, the Good Morning Football crew etc. all felt the same way so you can pretend it’s just starving Chiefs fans if you want to. This goes back to before that game too.

Maybe you just can’t evaluate talent to save your ****ing life Mr. “We’ll see”

I’ve never heard you once make a prediction/projection on a young player, so I’m pretty sure that’s the case.

Not sure what you're referring to on the projections... you're suggesting that I've never once said that any player will be great or not in their career? Guess I could take your path and say anyone in Denver will suck or Knowmo and say anyone that is connected to possibly signing in Denver is badass.

Sassy Squatch · 03-08-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, if he did things that most QBs can't do... he's already on a level few others will advance, and yet he only 'flashed' franchise caliber play? Which is it?

You know... he had a solid game, great win on the road in your first start. But, some of you (I believe) have been so starved for a great young drafted QB that you're overly bonerific about this kid putting shoes on or getting on the team bus. It's really kinda wild how mesmerized and awe inspiring that game was for so many of you.

You can do things that most other QBs just don't have the ability to and still be ****ing useless, like JaMarcus Russell.

RunKC · 03-08-2018, 08:53 AM

Mahomes made at least 1 “wow” play nearly every game. It’s crazy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClayW. (n...083520/photo/1

How many QB’s even attempt this kind of play, no less successfully do it?

Quesadilla Joe · 03-08-2018, 08:55 AM

Breer on Darnold:

1. Darnold has a ways to go.

Spoiler!

Sam Darnold’s decision not to throw at the combine puts pressure on him to light it up at USC’s pro day later in the month, and reviews of his board work in Indy have come back mixed. My belief is that he went into the process as the leader to be the first quarterback taken, and very clearly he has work to do now to hold the top spot. (Both Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield shone last week.) That said, my feeling is the more people get to know him, the more they’ll like him, and feel comfortable handing the keys to their operations over to him.

And what his college coach, Clay Helton, told the Bull and Fox show in Cleveland on Wednesday explains it perfectly: “No situation is too big for that young man. He does it the right way. He doesn’t come in talking or shootin’ his mouth off. … I’ll never forget when he first took over the starting job, one of our great receivers that was here at the time was JuJu Smith-Schuster, who has a dynamic personality and was an older kid at that time. We’re in a 7-on-7 drill and Sam and JuJu hook up. JuJu does a great celebration right afterwards and I’ll never forget Sam walking up to him just one-on-one, not in front of the whole group, one-on-one and just saying, ‘You know what, we don’t need that. Let’s focus on our job, let’s get this practice and really continue to focus.’ I was like, ‘Wow’. For a young kid to be able to do that to a guy that’s older, a guy that was already established, to have that type of confidence to lead right off the bat in the exact, correct way, he does a great job of that. He’s such a dynamic one-on-one leader and that’s why everyone respected him.”

It speaks to Darnold’s sense for every situation as a leader, and I had my own brush with it in August. I was doing a story with Norv Turner on the ex-NFL coach’s first summer out of football and we stopped by a USC fall camp practice, which was just ending. We caught Helton and Darnold coming off the field as the rest of the team went in for dinner and to get ready for meetings. After about five minutes, Norv said to Darnold, “Well, I don’t want to hold you up, I know you got to get to dinner and meetings.” Darnold quickly responded, “Coach Helton’s right here. As long as he’s here, I’m good, and I’ve got some questions for you about Troy Aikman and Drew Brees and Philip Rivers.” Same as it was in the Smith-Schuster story that Helton told, Darnold was thinking on his feet and trying to get the most out of the situation. He had questions ready, and came away with stories on what made the quarterbacks Norv had coached great. And I left thinking that’s what a young Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would do.

That’s not to say Darnold will make it. I don’t know if he, or any of the others, will. But I do know being comfortable with a quarterback is a big part of picking one high—you’re tying your job security to the guy. And so I think if a team like the Browns or Giants or whomever likes Darnold as a player, this part of him will make them feel very good about picking him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/fr...-mmqb-notebook

Mile High Mania · 03-08-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

You can do things that most other QBs just don't have the ability to and still be ****ing useless, like JaMarcus Russell.

Totally agree.

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	Breer on Darnold: 1. Darnold has a ways to go. Spoiler! Sam Darnold’s decision not to throw at the combine puts pressure on him to light it up at USC’s pro day later in the month, and reviews of his board work in Indy have come back mixed. My belief is that he went into the process as the leader to be the first quarterback taken, and very clearly he has work to do now to hold the top spot. (Both Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield shone last week.) That said, my feeling is the more people get to know him, the more they’ll like him, and feel comfortable handing the keys to their operations over to him. And what his college coach, Clay Helton, told the Bull and Fox show in Cleveland on Wednesday explains it perfectly: “No situation is too big for that young man. He does it the right way. He doesn’t come in talking or shootin’ his mouth off. … I’ll never forget when he first took over the starting job, one of our great receivers that was here at the time was JuJu Smith-Schuster, who has a dynamic personality and was an older kid at that time. We’re in a 7-on-7 drill and Sam and JuJu hook up. JuJu does a great celebration right afterwards and I’ll never forget Sam walking up to him just one-on-one, not in front of the whole group, one-on-one and just saying, ‘You know what, we don’t need that. Let’s focus on our job, let’s get this practice and really continue to focus.’ I was like, ‘Wow’. For a young kid to be able to do that to a guy that’s older, a guy that was already established, to have that type of confidence to lead right off the bat in the exact, correct way, he does a great job of that. He’s such a dynamic one-on-one leader and that’s why everyone respected him.” It speaks to Darnold’s sense for every situation as a leader, and I had my own brush with it in August. I was doing a story with Norv Turner on the ex-NFL coach’s first summer out of football and we stopped by a USC fall camp practice, which was just ending. We caught Helton and Darnold coming off the field as the rest of the team went in for dinner and to get ready for meetings. After about five minutes, Norv said to Darnold, “Well, I don’t want to hold you up, I know you got to get to dinner and meetings.” Darnold quickly responded, “Coach Helton’s right here. As long as he’s here, I’m good, and I’ve got some questions for you about Troy Aikman and Drew Brees and Philip Rivers.” Same as it was in the Smith-Schuster story that Helton told, Darnold was thinking on his feet and trying to get the most out of the situation. He had questions ready, and came away with stories on what made the quarterbacks Norv had coached great. And I left thinking that’s what a young Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would do. That’s not to say Darnold will make it. I don’t know if he, or any of the others, will. But I do know being comfortable with a quarterback is a big part of picking one high—you’re tying your job security to the guy. And so I think if a team like the Browns or Giants or whomever likes Darnold as a player, this part of him will make them feel very good about picking him. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/fr...-mmqb-notebook
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