RB has an argument for being our biggest team need - Page 15

RunKC · 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

In58men · 03-18-2025, 08:14 AM

DJ Giddens Kansas State

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...509/dj-giddens

https://youtu.be/kZXml-eYSIg?si=jsemJkTQiDWIwtBe

(Sorry unable to embed from YouTube app)

RunKC · 03-18-2025, 09:05 AM

RJ Harvey. This is what you want your back to look like. Thick ass thighs, rocked up arms. Compact build built for breaking tackles and pass protection on 3rd down.

via Imgflip

**SAGA45** · 03-18-2025, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

RJ Harvey, boys. That's our guy.

What I like about Harvey most is his patience....there's a subtle Le'veon Bell-like hesitation step before picking a hole.

I don't think we'll see many all-22's where Harvey misses a big hole or cutback opportunity like we often saw with CEH or Pacheco. He's always scanning for opportunities.

Just curious how long it takes him to adjust to NFL speed and reach the realization that'll have even less time to select a hole and GO.

Couch-Potato · 03-18-2025, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

RJ Harvey. This is what you want your back to look like. Thick ass thighs, rocked up arms. Compact build built for breaking tackles and pass protection on 3rd down.

via Imgflip

He’s a lot bigger than I expected

smithandrew051 · 03-18-2025, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

He’s a lot bigger than I expected

I said the same thing when Chris Jones ran the 40

Couch-Potato · 03-19-2025, 06:02 AM

Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

Chris Meck · 03-19-2025, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

I don't know.

staylor26 · 03-19-2025, 08:02 AM

It's a loaded RB class. Only so many can go early.

kccrow · 03-19-2025, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

Size/power and pass protection.

It's a loaded class with a lot of backs that have those things.

I love Harvey as much as anyone, he's one of the first RBs I remember talking about this offseason, but he has flaws too and those flaws probably make him a 2-down RB. He's a great receiver but not a 3rd down back with those issues.

RunKC · 03-19-2025, 09:09 AM

Right now I think RJ Harvey, Dylan Samspson and DJ Giddens are my favorite RB’s for us.

I still like Tuten, Blue and Smith as well but not quite as much.

Giddens has really grown on me. I see Damien Williams when I watch him. Only 1 fumble in his college career. Most elusive back in the class IMO

staylor26 · 03-19-2025, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Right now I think RJ Harvey, Dylan Samspson and DJ Giddens are my favorite RB’s for us.

I still like Tuten, Blue and Smith as well but not quite as much.

Giddens has really grown on me. I see Damien Williams when I watch him. Only 1 fumble in his college career. Most elusive back in the class IMO

I still think either of the Ohio St. guys would be the best fit, just not confident either makes it to 63. I could totally see us trading up for our choice at RB though.

RunKC · 03-19-2025, 10:25 AM

Yeah I should have clarified. Those are my favorite guys after the top guys. I don’t talk about them anymore bc I don’t they’re realistic options.

Charles Robinson said on his pod that RB’s are gonna go earlier than we think. Mentioned the Raiders likely taking Jeanty at 6 and the Steelers, Broncos, Bears taking a RB in rd 1 or 2.

Makes sense considering the Broncos and Steelers don’t have a real RB1 currently and Ben Johnson couldn’t get rid of DeAndre Swift fast enough in Detroit.

I have a hard time seeing the Steelers pass on Judkins. He feels like a Steelers pick

Edit-Steelers traded their 2nd for Metcalf. Maybe Judkins could fall to us??

CatfishBob2 · 03-19-2025, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Yeah I should have clarified. Those are my favorite guys after the top guys. I don’t talk about them anymore bc I don’t they’re realistic options.

Charles Robinson said on his pod that RB’s are gonna go earlier than we think. Mentioned the Raiders likely taking Jeanty at 6 and the Steelers, Broncos, Bears taking a RB in rd 1 or 2.

Makes sense considering the Broncos and Steelers don’t have a real RB1 currently and Ben Johnson couldn’t get rid of DeAndre Swift fast enough in Detroit.

I have a hard time seeing the Steelers pass on Judkins. He feels like a Steelers pick

I was just about to say this

My favs in order are
Hampton, Jeanty, Judkins, Henderson, Tuten, Harvey and Johnson. I would be surprised if any of them are left after the 3rd round.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were only 1 or 2 left going into the 3rd

bigjosh · 03-19-2025, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

I was just about to say this

My favs in order are
Hampton, Jeanty, Judkins, Henderson, Tuten, Harvey and Johnson. I would be surprised if any of them are left after the 3rd round.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were only 1 or 2 left going into the 3rd

I agree with this.

I would even endorse hampton at 31 to right the CEH wrong

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kccrow · 03-19-2025, 02:37 PM

What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?

01-20-2025, 01:22 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1360389	RB has an argument for being our biggest team need Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad. The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either. I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage. I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable. Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough. We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to: 2023: 7 2022: 12 2021: 5 Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously. Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1360389	RJ Harvey. This is what you want your back to look like. Thick ass thighs, rocked up arms. Compact build built for breaking tackles and pass protection on 3rd down. via Imgflip __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1360389	Right now I think RJ Harvey, Dylan Samspson and DJ Giddens are my favorite RB’s for us. I still like Tuten, Blue and Smith as well but not quite as much. Giddens has really grown on me. I see Damien Williams when I watch him. Only 1 fumble in his college career. Most elusive back in the class IMO __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1360389	Yeah I should have clarified. Those are my favorite guys after the top guys. I don’t talk about them anymore bc I don’t they’re realistic options. Charles Robinson said on his pod that RB’s are gonna go earlier than we think. Mentioned the Raiders likely taking Jeanty at 6 and the Steelers, Broncos, Bears taking a RB in rd 1 or 2. Makes sense considering the Broncos and Steelers don’t have a real RB1 currently and Ben Johnson couldn’t get rid of DeAndre Swift fast enough in Detroit. I have a hard time seeing the Steelers pass on Judkins. He feels like a Steelers pick Edit-Steelers traded their 2nd for Metcalf. Maybe Judkins could fall to us?? __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley Last edited by RunKC; 03-19-2025 at 10:50 AM..
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1010000	What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance. Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list. But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2. I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types. So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?
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