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Old 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM  
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Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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Old 11-03-2021, 08:08 AM   #211
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I am sure Mahomes is jumping at the chance to take footwork advice from a failed nobody that couldn't keep his Own feet from going out of the end zone.
He's not wrong and he's a decent analyst even though he sucked as a player. Pat has some things he needs fixed. The good thing is they're easily fixable. Isn't that better than assuming he's permanently damaged? I think he's learning to use the front of the pocket more, it's a little uncomfortable now, but he will overcome it with repetition as he always does and end up an even more dangerous player as a result.

As they say on Ted lasso... The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off
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Old 11-03-2021, 08:10 AM   #212
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He's not wrong and he's a decent analyst even though he sucked as a player. Pat has some things he needs fixed. The good thing is they're easily fixable. Isn't that better than assuming he's permanently damaged? I think he's learning to use the front of the pocket more, it's a little uncomfortable now, but he will overcome it with repetition as he always does and end up an even more dangerous player as a result.

As they say on Ted lasso... The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off
Mahomes will be fine. That's the least of the team's worries.
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Old 11-03-2021, 08:43 AM   #213
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Mahomes is going to throw 45 TDs while being broken.

You absolute yobbos.
Are these going to be garbage time TD's?

Yes, the fluke turnovers are the biggest problem.... but being a little more balanced with a running attack and adjusting to what the defenses are doing is not a bad thing.
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:24 AM   #214
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"admittedly doesn't know how to read defenses"

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Old 11-03-2021, 09:36 AM   #215
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:38 AM   #216
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Couple of average games where Mahomes gets saddled with a bunch of INTS that are not his fault- and fans are ready to dump him. Pathetic.
Being critical of his recent play does not mean that people are ready to dump him. I don’t think anyone is calling for Henne to start. Anyone being honest can see that Mahomes is playing well below the ridiculously high bar he’s set through his career.
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Old 11-03-2021, 10:05 AM   #217
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"admittedly doesn't know how to read defenses"

that tool needs his teeth smacked out

Mahomes knows how to read defenses.

The issue is Andy Reid's special creation aged out of style and we refuse to adapt.


Last year when teams had two high we would counter with RPO's. (See Buffalo AFC Championship)

But now teams are playing shell and the linebackers are far enough back and told not to bother with the run..squeeze the RPO windows.

And we have no counter.

Mahomes first reads are still usually verticals down the field.

As I said, this is what happened to A Rodgers when people caught on to MccCarthy and McCarthy kept going "We are who we are."

For Green Bay all you had to do was play Cover 2 and it was into the woodchipper for them.
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:09 PM   #218
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Dov is a ****ing idiot. Mahomes hater for sure.
If people haven't noticed on twitter, Dov has been exposed as a mealy mouth Patriots fan boy and a creeper who Jennifer Lawrence allegedly had to get a restraining order against.

And it all stemmed from that tweet about Mahomes, so his obsession with hating on Pat has become his downfall.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:14 PM   #219
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I don't think he's broken; I do think over the last year he has been beaten up pretty good. Multiple concussions, toe injury and has taken some huge hits. A little like CEH; he is not the same player after the Saints game. Football is a brutal sport and people end up crippled from playing it. Add the extra responsibility of a family, the huge contract, the frustration of defenses taking away what he does best, the inability of the front office to give him more than two options for receivers, opposing offenses going for fourth down conversions at a huge rate because of the pressure he puts on them, etc.

What else does he need to accomplish? i wouldn't blame him if he just Andrew Luck'd it.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:31 PM   #220
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Something is definitely off.
Mahomes is playing behind a new O Line and the blocking is different. Also he's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and he's struggling to do so and the O Line is part of that. Defenses are doubling Hill and Kelce and taking the way the deeper routes that Mahomes excels at. And then last but not least Patrick is still pressing like he's still playing In the Super Bowl. So basically he's struggling. He's a damn good QB and he'll get it figured out.
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:44 PM   #222
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"admittedly doesn't know how to read defenses"

that tool needs his teeth smacked out
Yeah, isn't that something Mahomes said in his rookie season or something?

And now only 3.5 seasons later is it true.
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Old 11-04-2021, 10:57 PM   #223
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Old 11-05-2021, 04:06 AM   #224
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:25 AM   #225
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Is josh Gordon already a failed experiment?

He’s still a hypothesis. They haven’t even implemented the experimental testing phase yet.
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