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Old 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM  
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Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class?
I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:54 PM   #211
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I'm not talking about shotgun vs under center.

I'm talking about straight drop passing, from any formation, not this running around ad-libbing bullshit that got Manziel over-drafted and is going to make some equally dumb team take Mahomes too high.

I want a QB who drops back, scans the field, sets his feet and throws the ball into tight windows. End of story.
Watson?
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:55 PM   #212
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Watson?
Let me repeat: I don't want ANY of the 2017 QBs in the first round.

They all deserve Brodie Croyle treatment.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:59 PM   #213
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Smith lacks confidence. Panics in the pocket and doesn't keep his eyes downfield. That's everybodys biggest gripe about Smith.

Watson is 180 from Smith in these areas. Oozes confidence. Stays in the pocket. Keeps his eyes down the field. And when he moves from the pocket he still scans the field before running. I think Watson would be awesome with this team.
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Let me repeat: I don't want ANY of the 2017 QBs in the first round.

They all deserve Brodie Croyle treatment.
Thank god you aren't in charge.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:35 PM   #215
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I didnt word or make myself clear in that post. I meant it as all ****ing last year i hear we gotta draft a qb this draft. Then as the draft is nearing I hear the same yahoos that want to draft one now saying we should wait till 2018. I didnt make it clear so just pinch your but cheeks together and try not to shit yourself.
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Smith lacks confidence. Panics in the pocket and doesn't keep his eyes downfield. That's everybodys biggest gripe about Smith.

Watson is 180 from Smith in these areas. Oozes confidence. Stays in the pocket. Keeps his eyes down the field. And when he moves from the pocket he still scans the field before running. I think Watson would be awesome with this team.
He'll have to overcome his severe arm strength limitations because the shit he got away with in college won't happen in the pros.
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There's a franchise that actually gets it.

Good move for them. No sense in wasting time on Schaub. See what you have in Carr and if he flames out, move on.
That's the first post I made about Carr on CP. I never really weighed in on him prior to the draft.
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So, you waited till a rival picked him to suck him off That's part of your schtick,not some great player evaluation.
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If it's a pass rusher we draft instead, then fine. I'll accept that.

If we draft a ****ing RB, I'll put an ax through my TV. And if it's McCaffery, I'll kick every neighborhood dog I can find.
I hope they draft Mixon at some point
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So, you waited till a rival picked him to suck him off That's part of your schtick,not some great player evaluation.
I didn't evaluate him pro or con, dude. That's the point.

He wasn't on my radar at all because I was in Geno love mode.

I don't think I even posted anything about 2014 QB prospects. I just didn't care.
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Smith lacks confidence. Panics in the pocket and doesn't keep his eyes downfield. That's everybodys biggest gripe about Smith.

Watson is 180 from Smith in these areas. Oozes confidence. Stays in the pocket. Keeps his eyes down the field. And when he moves from the pocket he still scans the field before running. I think Watson would be awesome with this team.
I do too. His pass velocity is a big concern though. But I trust Reid to scheme guys open so we don't need a rocket armed QB.
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I'm pretty certain they get their guy in Round 1....whether that's Watson or Mahomes depends on others
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...true&sle=true#

That is a document that tracks throwing velocity at the combine back a few years. According to the author if you throw less than 55mph, you are pretty much destined to fail in the NFL. Higher doesn't guarantee anything, but gives you a fighting chance.

For those of you looking for an "I got you" - Dak Prescott supposedly threw with an injured shoulder at the combine.
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