Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez

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CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

No incompletions vs no interceptions in Helmets and shorts.
Equally meaningless.

maybe to someone with an agenda.

There are other players out on that field trying to make plays too.

no int's at this point isn't something that is going to prove the guy is gong to be good, but its far more important than throwing against AIR. air can't intercept or deflect the ball.
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[SAUTO]

And they aren't in pads yet?
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[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does a red non contact jersey have to do with db's trying to intercept a pass? You do realize the non contact jersey isn't being worn by the football, right?
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Yeah my fault.
They werent even wearing pads when that report came out.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

maybe to someone with an agenda.

There are other players out on that field trying to make plays too.

no int's at this point isn't something that is going to prove the guy is gong to be good, but its far more important than throwing against AIR. air can't intercept or deflect the ball.
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Nobody said there were no deflections or incompletions.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Yeah my fault.
They werent even wearing pads when that report came out.

So? Did you miss the next one that says its gone eight practices now?


Again there are other players it there fighting for a job. They are actually trying to stop the wrs from catching the ball.

Air can't do that
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Nobody said there were no deflections or incompletions.

No shit. Just making a point about the difference in 11 on 11 and a pro day because obviously you don't get it.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

The little asian guy is right. There is a big difference.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

No shit. Just making a point about the difference in 11 on 11 and a pro day because obviously you don't get it.
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Yeah, I get it.
Its no interceptions in Helmets and Shorts.
Meaningless is meaningless.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by PGM

The little asian guy is right. There is a big difference.

No shit. Pig headed ignorance going on here.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by PGM

The little asian guy is right. There is a big difference.

There is obviously a difference.
Are they both not completely irrelevant, which is the point im trying to make?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

There is obviously a difference.
Are they both not completely irrelevant, which is the point im trying to make?

the only irrelevant thing is the pro day that you brought up.


A rookie in camp against actual players not throwing an int in at least eight practices is noteworthy.

Why do you think there have been multiple articles written about it
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[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No shit. Pig headed ignorance going on here.

You leave Hog Farmer's business out of this. He's a good poster and I like him.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

the only irrelevant thing is the pro day that you brought up.


A rookie in camp against actual players not throwing an int in at least eight practices is noteworthy.

Why do you think there have been multiple articles written about it
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Would you want Smith leading your team?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No shit. Pig headed ignorance going on here.

Im just gonna go ahead and admit im wrong here.

But im not going to accept a few days of no interceptions in shells as anything other than fluff.

[SAUTO]

Would you be saying it was meaningless if he had thrown ten int's at this point?
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