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Old 04-16-2009, 01:40 PM  
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Todd Haley is a MF'in prick
WHB610 is giving him hell. No Neal Jones, did he get the ax?

Rumor is Haley called in Will Franklin and told him he was a marked man. He was one of "Herm's guys." Rode him so hard at the voluntary work outs that he asked for his release and it was granted.

I'm not having that big of a problem with this.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:25 PM   #211
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Everyone thought Casey Wiegmann sucked complete shit his last year here.

Then he goes to Denver and is a part of the #2 offense.

Herm was a frickin' moron and Haley is going to make a HUGE difference.

7 wins if Cassel stays healthy.
Exactly. I'm not going to make a definite decision if a player sucks or not until the stench of Herm is completely washed off.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:28 PM   #212
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You don't think any of that had to do with coaching?
Not after 4 years.

No way.

Do you think that Jared Allen was successful because of coaching?
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:29 PM   #213
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Exactly. I'm not going to make a definite decision if a player sucks or not until the stench of Herm is completely washed off.
You could be waiting a long time in many cases
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:32 PM   #214
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You could be waiting a long time in many cases
The folks with permanent Herm stench will all be gone by next season.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:43 PM   #215
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He should be glad the coach cared enough to call him in and challenge him, usually means that they see potential in you and they want you to be the very best you can be, unfortunately you showed your true colors, and that you don't have a strong mind, and basically your a f##king pussy, and when bullets start to fly you will run and hide, later.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:43 PM   #216
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Derrick Johnson is a huge, gigantic disappointment.

He was taken at #15 overall, a spot that designates that he should have been an impact player. He's not. He disappears not just for huge chunks of plays but for games at a time.

He is probably the most inconsistent player on the Chiefs defense and does nothing to elevate the level of play of the other players on defense.
Jesus, I'm sorry he's not Derrick Thomas.

Nothing you said refutes my point: that he is a solid player and a solid NFL starter who has a place on a good defense.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:44 PM   #217
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Not after 4 years.

No way.

Do you think that Jared Allen was successful because of coaching?
I think Jared Allen could rush the passer, more or less sucked against the run,and was fooled by the bootleg all the damn time. What he was good at was a gift he had that didn't need to be coached. Go kill the QB.

What he sucked at were things that should have been coachable.

I guess now you are going to tell me he was a good run defender and he didn't fall for the bootleg all the time.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:53 PM   #218
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Jesus, I'm sorry he's not Derrick Thomas.

Nothing you said refutes my point: that he is a solid player and a solid NFL starter who has a place on a good defense.
Really? Are you serious? Is that your argument? "Oh, he's solid".

BFD.

Are you claiming that he was worth #15 overall pick?

C'mon. Let's hear it.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:54 PM   #219
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I think Jared Allen could rush the passer, more or less sucked against the run,and was fooled by the bootleg all the damn time. What he was good at was a gift he had that didn't need to be coached. Go kill the QB.

What he sucked at were things that should have been coachable.

I guess now you are going to tell me he was a good run defender and he didn't fall for the bootleg all the time.
Duh.

Do you think that if he couldn't rush the passer that he would have received the largest contract for a D-lineman at that time?

Urine idiot.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:13 PM   #220
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Are you claiming that he was worth #15 overall pick?

C'mon. Let's hear it.

No....but he has a place on a good defense.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:15 PM   #221
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No....but he has a place on a good defense.
So, you admit that he's not a consistent game changer. That's he's just a "guy" with a "place" on a "good" defense.

Sounds like a 4th rounder to me.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:29 PM   #222
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So, you admit that he's not a consistent game changer. That's he's just a "guy" with a "place" on a "good" defense.

Sounds like a 4th rounder to me.
Monty Beisel is a "guy."

Derrick Johnson can make plays. He's proven that. He's an above-average level starter in the league. And definitely refutes your point that the Chiefs have no young linebackers.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:33 PM   #223
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Monty Beisel is a "guy."

Derrick Johnson can make plays. He's proven that. He's an above-average level starter in the league. And definitely refutes your point that the Chiefs have no young linebackers.


So you're telling me that one out of four young starting linebackers is enough? Enough for what?

Derrick Johnson doesn't make plays with any more frequency than did Scott Fujita, who was a 5th round choice. He's average, at best.

I don't understand people's fascination with Derrick Johnson. I'd have taken Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over "DJ".
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Derrick Johnson doesn't make plays with any more frequency than did Scott Fujita, who was a 5th round choice. He's average, at best.

I don't understand people's fascination with Derrick Johnson. I'd have taken Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over "DJ".

This! Dont make me bump my Rodgers over DJ thread again!
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So you're telling me that one out of four young starting linebackers is enough? Enough for what?

Derrick Johnson doesn't make plays with any more frequency than did Scott Fujita, who was a 5th round choice. He's average, at best.

I don't understand people's fascination with Derrick Johnson. I'd have taken Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over "DJ".
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