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Old 04-27-2024, 11:38 AM  
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Old 07-24-2024, 05:35 PM   #211
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I think Kollman is good at explaining basic film concepts in easy to understand terms.

I think his talent eval is bad and especially bad for KC.

He love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. I remember him loving Quentin Johnston and Denzel Mims.

He hated Rashee Rice.

Maybe he’s not as bad related to guys not drafted by KC, but when it comes to our guys, he just doesn’t have a good handle for who works and who won’t.

Wiley looks like he’s going to be a freaking stud.
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Old 07-24-2024, 05:45 PM   #212
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I'm not some kneejerk guy who writes off everything somebody says just because I disagree, but Kollmann has had some pretty strange draft takes. Doesn't like Wiley? Thought he was a reach, and that there were better TEs we could have taken at that spot?

Like, sure, you get to this stage of the draft and a lot of it becomes a crapshoot, but isn't it pretty dang obvious what the Chiefs were going for when they took Wiley? And if Wiley even becomes 75% of that dream they have, that already makes him a top 15 starting TE and a pretty nasty threat in the passing game that will continue beyond whenever Kelce decides to hang'em up.

Maybe that would be a pick to hem and haw about if the freakin Cardinals or Titans or some other crap team took him, but in the TE factory that is KC, he can't see the obvious upside staring right in front of him?

Very strange.


I think, not positive, but I think both of these guys were really high on CEH in that draft. Iirc, one of these guys actually threw their notebook in disgust after KC drafted CEH on their podcast.
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I think, not positive, but I think both of these guys were really high on CEH in that draft. Iirc, one of these guys actually threw their notebook in disgust after KC drafted CEH on their podcast.
Kollman for sure was big on CEH. Thought he was the second coming of Brian Westbrook.

And honestly maybe he could've been if he didn't get hurt. ****ing Saints, dirty ass organization.
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I've said it a hundred times it feels like. Kollman works for the ****ing Chargers. He does a great job of saying he isn't biased at all because of it right before he shits on every Chiefs draft pick. He's Teicher but better at playing the imaginary middle. **** him right in his off-season super bowl champion ass.
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I think Kollman is good at explaining basic film concepts in easy to understand terms.

I think his talent eval is bad and especially bad for KC.
Kollman didn't like Mahomes at all. I mean at all. If you were against football jesus you lose all credibility in my book.

(although, to be fair, he did later make a lengthy video explaining just how wrong he was after his blasphemy became obvious)
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I've said it a hundred times it feels like. Kollman works for the ****ing Chargers. He does a great job of saying he isn't biased at all because of it right before he shits on every Chiefs draft pick. He's Teicher but better at playing the imaginary middle. **** him right in his off-season super bowl champion ass.
He doesn't shit on every Chiefs draft pick, though. He loves Worthy, and spent a lot of time talking about how Jaden Hicks in the late 4th was the best pick of the entire draft
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He doesn't shit on every Chiefs draft pick, though. He loves Worthy, and spent a lot of time talking about how Jaden Hicks in the late 4th was the best pick of the entire draft
This also feels like draft echo chamber stuff.

So many people had him in the 2nd that they insist he was a steal in the 4th. But when you watch him move (he's fairly stiff) and consider the state of the modern NFL, suddenly him being available in the 4th makes a ton of sense.

It's strange that he doesn't like Wiley and loves Hicks because that strikes me as pure confirmation bias.

Wiley looks like a guy who Reid can mold into a 1,000 tight end by the end of his rookie deal. Hicks looks like a guy who might have a home as a 3rd safety in heavy nickel sets, IMO.

I think too many draft heads get stuck on their pre-draft boards and refuse to re-consider.

I learned a lesson with Kinnard when I went into that draft thinking he was a viable 2nd round pick. Then as a 5th rounder I thought "man, this dude is a steal" and completely ignored the fact that his feet were heeeeaaaavy and likely wouldn't translate.

And they haven't. NFL teams are smart. If Kollman was certain a guy was a 2nd rounder and he fell into the 4th, it's extremely likely that Kollman is wrong and not the front office of every single team in the league.
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These teams have this stuff down pretty well at this point. Some things fall thru the cracks, sure, but for the most part........it ain't usually the teams that are off
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He doesn't shit on every Chiefs draft pick, though. He loves Worthy, and spent a lot of time talking about how Jaden Hicks in the late 4th was the best pick of the entire draft
I may have exaggerated a little. He does like to come on Chiefs pods and say how he doesn't see how x is going to work in Andys scheme like Andy is so rigid he doesn't drastically adjust the offense year to year.
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This also feels like draft echo chamber stuff.

So many people had him in the 2nd that they insist he was a steal in the 4th. But when you watch him move (he's fairly stiff) and consider the state of the modern NFL, suddenly him being available in the 4th makes a ton of sense.

It's strange that he doesn't like Wiley and loves Hicks because that strikes me as pure confirmation bias.

Wiley looks like a guy who Reid can mold into a 1,000 tight end by the end of his rookie deal. Hicks looks like a guy who might have a home as a 3rd safety in heavy nickel sets, IMO.

I think too many draft heads get stuck on their pre-draft boards and refuse to re-consider.

I learned a lesson with Kinnard when I went into that draft thinking he was a viable 2nd round pick. Then as a 5th rounder I thought "man, this dude is a steal" and completely ignored the fact that his feet were heeeeaaaavy and likely wouldn't translate.

And they haven't. NFL teams are smart. If Kollman was certain a guy was a 2nd rounder and he fell into the 4th, it's extremely likely that Kollman is wrong and not the front office of every single team in the league.
Can't stand "evaluators" like Kollman. Guys who think they're smarter than 32 NFL teams and speak in absolutes as if their word is gospel.

"I'm not a Wiley fan but i had Hicks as my top safety in the class, a 1st round pick".

Like dude, . "Well MY draft board blah blah blah". Cringe.
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