Ben Carson: Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain, not Pharaohs' tombs - Page 15

**Dave Lane** · 11-05-2015, 12:28 PM

Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.

The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday.

The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one.

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address.

“Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it.

“And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.”

Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.”

In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.

“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.”

In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”.

After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored.

Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ …

“But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...pharoahs-tombs

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-06-2015, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

There is not drawing found yet of hot to build these things nor explanations as to why.

that's weird because theres so many other drawings and blueprints from those times all over the place ...

it makes you think WHY are JUST those drawings gone?

amirite?

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

ohhhhhhh, you're a surveyor huh?

surely surveyor school taught you to rely on facts like measurements and direction and the like...

you said the earth is shaped like a potato...

how do you survey the surface of a cosmic potato??

You will find the answers you seek here.

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-06-2015, 06:29 PM

srvy = survey

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go bo · 11-06-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

srvy = survey

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**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

ohhhhhhh, you're a surveyor huh?

surely surveyor school taught you to rely on facts like measurements and direction and the like...

you said the earth is shaped like a potato...

how do you survey the surface of a cosmic potato??

Hope this helps ya.

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/GEOID/geoid_def.html

go bo · 11-06-2015, 06:46 PM

oh well, that makes all the difference...

DaveNull · 11-06-2015, 06:50 PM

You keep linking to things that hurt your own point. That page also explains that geoid relates to gravity and not shape.

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The equipotential surface of the Earth's gravity field which best fits

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull

You keep linking to things that hurt your own point. That page also explains that geoid relates to gravity and not shape.

He doesn't read his own sources.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:54 PM

Dave Lane your an astronomer correct?

Have you ever observed Polaris to actually calculate an azimuth on the ground? Sun Shot? Just curious I know this is a forgotten art now as GPS has pretty much eliminated the need. I would think calculating an astronomic azimuth would be astronomy 101.

go bo · 11-06-2015, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Dave Lane your an astronomer correct?

Have you ever observed Polaris to actually calculate an azimuth on the ground? Sun Shot? Just curious I know this is a forgotten art now as GPS has pretty much eliminated the need. I would think calculating an astronomic azimuth would be astronomy 101.

no, dave is an astrophotographer...

and a damned good one at that...

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

no, dave is an astrophotographer...

and a damned good one at that...

Ok I for some reason thought he was an astronomer.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull

You keep linking to things that hurt your own point. That page also explains that geoid relates to gravity and not shape.

Well you know who the NGS is? They are the people responsible for keeping and maintaining the horizontal and vertical control system of the US and they feel its important.

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Well you know who the NGS is? They are the people responsible for keeping and maintaining the horizontal and vertical control system of the US and they feel its important.

Nobody said it's not important. It's not what the planet looks like, though. The Earth is a nearly perfect sphere. I can't believe I'm having this discussion with another adult.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 07:11 PM

http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0703/geoid1of3.html

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Nobody said it's not important. It's not what the planet looks like, though. The Earth is a nearly perfect sphere. I can't believe I'm having this discussion with another adult.

Gauss described the Geoid as the true mathematical figure of the earth.

In Geodesy it is known as the true physical figure of the earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoid

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