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Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:07 AM   #2221
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The hard thing to see is what Jones thinks he's doing on his end.

KC won't go to the dollar amount he wants? OK. Your options are:

1) Go kick ass while clearing $20M in cash in a contract year (with a better supporting cast around you) and then cash in next season with a team that WILL give you what you want (either on a tag and trade or a straight FA walk, because the team can't REALLY afford to keep you on the tag).
2) Hold out of preseason, costing yourself about $2M, then go kick ass in a contract year after getting into shape. Probably costs you a little bit in what you get if your numbers are down, but not a LOT.
3) HAve a significant, protracted holdout. Come into the season mid-year, have to play your way into shape, and believe that you can make enough happen in the postseason to get the big deal you're seeking.
4) Sit out the whole year and not have your year of service time recognized. Get traded next year and hope some team is willing to give you the deal you want when you'll have 18 months between games.

How he is trending towards (3) is wild to me.
The only way 3 remotely makes sense is if he thinks he can't replicate last season...has some type of body issue that he knows means his career is close to over, or legit cares about nothing but the money at this point and thinks his best days are behind him so playing could lower his value.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:07 AM   #2222
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Ehh. He’d quite easily get top 15 pick in the draft value.

Which is roughly what Tyreek fetched. At roughly the same age, and at a better aging position
I sincerely doubt that, but absolutely hope you’re right
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:07 AM   #2223
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That suggests we should trade CJ and use the cap savings to re-sign Dunlap.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:10 AM   #2224
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:10 AM   #2225
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:16 AM   #2226
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If the Chiefs feel it’s something like Creed and Humphrey or Jones, I’m taking the OL.
They're also significantly younger, you win with rookie and 2nd contracts, big 3rd contracts is how you get ****ed.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:19 AM   #2227
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The only way 3 remotely makes sense is if he thinks he can't replicate last season...has some type of body issue that he knows means his career is close to over, or legit cares about nothing but the money at this point and thinks his best days are behind him so playing could lower his value.
I think 3 makes since if you really want to make sure your off the team in 2024. You get your service time and sends a clear message to the team your done. Also lessons chance of injury by 50%. There is no way the team does not get him out of town in 2024.

Otherwise he may find himself back being tagged. The team will be under the same impression he will hold out of training camp but eventually report.

But yes he knows he has 1 contract left for 3-4 year deal in him if he does not get hurt. Also probably clear by now the Chiefs probably will not be paying his amount.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:20 AM   #2228
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The only way 3 remotely makes sense is if he thinks he can't replicate last season...has some type of body issue that he knows means his career is close to over, or legit cares about nothing but the money at this point and thinks his best days are behind him so playing could lower his value.
But if he believed any of those things, he would have signed the Chiefs' offer.

The only explanation is neither Chris Jones nor his agent know what the hell they are doing and had no backup plan in the event the Chiefs didn't give-in to his contract demands.

Edit: Players and agents trying to squeeze every last dime out of the Chiefs in a game of chicken is bad strategy win the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes, and they can't seem to figure that out.
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I think 3 makes since if you really want to make sure your off the team in 2024. You get your service time and sends a clear message to the team your done. Also lessons chance of injury by 50%. There is no way the team does not get him out of town in 2024.

Otherwise he may find himself back being tagged. The team will be under the same impression he will hold out of training camp but eventually report.

But yes he knows he has 1 contract left for 3-4 year deal in him if he does not get hurt. Also probably clear by now the Chiefs probably will not be paying his amount.
You risk no one paying you if you sit real games to be honest...I get the playing hardball to not get tagged but I don't think the Chiefs can realistically pay his tag number which is like 33 million dollars.
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Old 08-23-2023, 11:23 AM   #2230
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I guess we can change the meaning of "BDJ" to Big Dumb Jones. Cause he is looking really stupid right now and this whole thing is a pride issue.

He isn't going to make up the money he is about to lose.
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But if he believed any of those things, he would have signed the Chiefs' offer.

The only explanation is neither Chris Jones nor his agent know what the hell they are doing and had no backup plan in the event the Chiefs didn't give-in to his contract demands.
You would have thought the obj situation would have taught them something.

Chiefs have mahomes and are kings of the mountain. We can win without you Chris. Veach knows it and won't cave.
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You risk no one paying you if you sit real games to be honest...I get the playing hardball to not get tagged but I don't think the Chiefs can realistically pay his tag number which is like 33 million dollars.
His PYS will drop roughly 1.1M for each game he misses (got further clarification after looking last night). If he does sit till week 8, His PYS for the tag next year will be in the ballpark of 20.6M, so his tag will be MUCH more affordable. Probably the average of the Top 5 guys, so 24.5 to 25.5M, somewhere in there.
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That's the part that might just irritate me the most of all.

Don't you think there's a decent chance that Jones is using Omenihu's suspension as a pressure point?

"Hey, the team might be in a bind here. I could A) Step up and help us through it or B) Use it to add a few more bucks to my deal and potentially mess up a season where I'm being paid $20 million.

B sounds aces to me!"
Anyone else notice Spags utilizing Chenal as an edge rusher this preseason? We've seen him do this before with Gay as well.

Have a feeling we're gonna see a metric **** load of blitz package designs this year.
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His PYS will drop roughly 1.1M for each game he misses (got further clarification after looking last night). If he does sit till week 8, His PYS for the tag next year will be in the ballpark of 20.6M, so his tag will be MUCH more affordable. Probably the average of the Top 5 guys, so 24.5 to 25.5M, somewhere in there.
I didn’t even think about that. Wonder if that’s how itll really work.
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The hard thing to see is what Jones thinks he's doing on his end.

KC won't go to the dollar amount he wants? OK. Your options are:

1) Go kick ass while clearing $20M in cash in a contract year (with a better supporting cast around you) and then cash in next season with a team that WILL give you what you want (either on a tag and trade or a straight FA walk, because the team can't REALLY afford to keep you on the tag).
2) Hold out of preseason, costing yourself about $2M, then go kick ass in a contract year after getting into shape. Probably costs you a little bit in what you get if your numbers are down, but not a LOT.
3) HAve a significant, protracted holdout. Come into the season mid-year, have to play your way into shape, and believe that you can make enough happen in the postseason to get the big deal you're seeking.
4) Sit out the whole year and not have your year of service time recognized. Get traded next year and hope some team is willing to give you the deal you want when you'll have 18 months between games.

How he is trending towards (3) is wild to me.
If he chooses option 3 he's probably going to hurt his back about 2 games into playing meaningful snaps. Stupid business decision.
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