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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:18 PM   #22276
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You forgot Ray and Barrett.

Many people thought Simmons and Gotsis were busts because they weren't starters in 2016. Don't be surprised if DeMarcus Walker, Carlos Henderson, Jake Butt, and Brendan Langley make a similar jump in their second year.
That's an awful lot of hoping. I guess that going off that statement that the Chiefs could be the best in the league if Robinson, KPass, Eligwe, and Orson make a similar jump right? After all, all young NFL players make big jumps from one year to the next right? Or is that just Donk players?
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Ray can play. Everybody expected him to have a breakout year before he hurt his hand in TC.
And that’s exactly why he’s Dee Ford
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Jeff George?

Michael Bishop had one hell of an arm too.

That alone doesn't make a quarterback.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:33 PM   #22279
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So like Ford after he had his 10 sack season, right?
Ford got most of his sacks in three games against terrible tackles and was invisible the rest of the year.
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Ford got most of his sacks in three games against terrible tackles and was invisible the rest of the year.
Ray hasn’t done anything to show he’s better. He’s flashed 1 time in 3 years.
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Ford got most of his sacks in three games against terrible tackles and was invisible the rest of the year.
Sacks are sacks you ****ing moron.

I guess Calais Campbell sucks because he got 6 of his 14.5 sacks against the Texans right?
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Sacks are sacks you ****ing moron.

I guess Calais Campbell sucks because he got 6 of his 14.5 sacks against the Texans right?

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OT play throughout the league is shit, so bad that your injury excuse for Ray getting just 1 sack is bullshit.
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OT play throughout the league is shit, so bad that your injury excuse for Ray getting just 1 sack is bullshit.
And he has Von Miller taking attention. Dee Ford didn’t have Justin Houston in 2016.
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Campbell doesn't have to get sacks for his presence to be felt. Ford can play an entire game and you'll never know he's on the field.
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OT play throughout the league is shit, so bad that your injury excuse for Ray getting just 1 sack is bullshit.
Von had 10.5 sacks in his first 11 games his rookie year, he then injured his hand and only managed to get 1 sack in the last 4 games.

Hand injuries are a big deal for pass rushers.
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Von had 10.5 sacks in his first 11 games his rookie year, he then injured his hand and only managed to get 1 sack in the last 4 games.

Hand injuries are a big deal for pass rushers.
Back injuries aren't?
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Von had 10.5 sacks in his first 11 games his rookie year, he then injured his hand and only managed to get 1 sack in the last 4 games.

Hand injuries are a big deal for pass rushers.
Evidently his overall game was shit

Once again, Ray struggled to contain his responsibilities against the run grading out a paltry 45.3 according to Pro Football Focus. He struggled in minimal coverage assignments as well with a 44.7 grade, but did okay at rushing the quarterback with a 73.4 grade. Overall, he finished with a disappointing 50.7 grade on the season.
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Ray might be too small to be a good run defender. He tries though.
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Back injuries aren't?
They are. I just don't think Ford was a good player prior to the injury.
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