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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:18 PM   #2206
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If we were being real about all of this, they'd cut Berry and Houston just for the fact that they are both constantly missing games.
If constantly missing games is the bar that's set, then Ford needs to go too.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:18 PM   #2207
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If constantly missing games is the bar that's set, then Ford needs to go too.

yes please.

I know none of you agree, but yes.
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:04 PM   #2208
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Houston was pretty darn good once we moved him to DE and let him attack. The problem is the stupid contract we gave him. If we restructure his contract then we are locked in even longer for a guy with a bum knee. Big risk.
He never played DE in our 3-4. He played OLB.
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Out of the three, Houston is still the best player and could contribute the most. He's certainly the most trustworthy in terms of rushing, tackling, and defending the pass.

Is Dee Ford worth keeping and paying large $$$ for the one thing he can do somewhat well? Is it worth it when you throw in to consideration that his track record of staying healthy and on the field is less than ideal?

And isn't it the most prudent move to cut Berry June 1st and get whatever meager cap savings we can when we need defensive depth?

From a practical standpoint, it's very easy to see which moves make the most sense. But without all of the details( Berry )as well as whatever Spags and Co. may be thinking about these three, it's incredibly hard to try and guess what the final outcome is going to be.
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:11 PM   #2210
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He never played DE in our 3-4. He played OLB.
JakeF thinks he was playing DE when he was rushing the passer and OLB when he was covering

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Old 02-14-2019, 08:52 PM   #2211
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:00 PM   #2212
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I agree.

Berry should restructure too. I know he is in very good position to refuse but that contract looks ugly right now.
If Berry has his surgery then yes , If he's not having surgery to fix his problem he should be cut.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:32 AM   #2213
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Out of the three, Houston is still the best player and could contribute the most. He's certainly the most trustworthy in terms of rushing, tackling, and defending the pass.

Is Dee Ford worth keeping and paying large $$$ for the one thing he can do somewhat well? Is it worth it when you throw in to consideration that his track record of staying healthy and on the field is less than ideal?

And isn't it the most prudent move to cut Berry June 1st and get whatever meager cap savings we can when we need defensive depth?

From a practical standpoint, it's very easy to see which moves make the most sense. But without all of the details( Berry )as well as whatever Spags and Co. may be thinking about these three, it's incredibly hard to try and guess what the final outcome is going to be.
I guess people are just frustrated with the rush defense but Ford was clearly better than Houston last year.

Ford ranked no. 37 to Houston's 80th ranking on PFF top 100 players of 2018.

Ford got the Pro Bowl honour and not Houston despite the latter having the name recognition.

Any ranking of the top players in 2018 will have Ford above Houston.

People just need to put respect on that guy's name. He was great last year. I dont care if you want to call him a one-trick pony or whatever, Ford was arguably elite this past year.

And then you look at their age, both having had injuries in the past, I dont see how Ford won't be the better player next year, short of injury.
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JakeF thinks he was playing DE when he was rushing the passer and OLB when he was covering

What?

Holy ****shitballs. I knew that boy was dumb, but Christ...
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What?

Holy ****shitballs. I knew that boy was dumb, but Christ...
I mean I’m kind of guessing here but it sure sounds like it.

He seems to think them using Houston less in coverage means that he was playing DE.
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When are they going to announce all the staff? Seems like this is dragging out a bit
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I guess people are just frustrated with the rush defense but Ford was clearly better than Houston last year.

Ford ranked no. 37 to Houston's 80th ranking on PFF top 100 players of 2018.

Ford got the Pro Bowl honour and not Houston despite the latter having the name recognition.

Any ranking of the top players in 2018 will have Ford above Houston.

People just need to put respect on that guy's name. He was great last year. I dont care if you want to call him a one-trick pony or whatever, Ford was arguably elite this past year.

And then you look at their age, both having had injuries in the past, I dont see how Ford won't be the better player next year, short of injury.
Short of injury, and therein lies the rub.

Ford is gonna get hurt next year. It's gonna happen. The guy simply can't stay healthy.
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When are they going to announce all the staff? Seems like this is dragging out a bit
That’s probably a good thing.
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Short of injury, and therein lies the rub.

Ford is gonna get hurt next year. It's gonna happen. The guy simply can't stay healthy.
That’s why we’re franchising him and not giving him s multiple year extension
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That’s why we’re franchising him and not giving him s multiple year extension
We'd be better off letting him walk.

He's no good in coverage, barely respectable vs. the run, and is a pure speed rusher.

He's a glorified one dimensional pass rusher. If we want to tag-n-trade just to get a 3rd or 4th or something in return then fine...
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