Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

[manchambo]

Originally Posted by sully1983

Another thing I absolutely hated about this film was that little volleyball droid (BB-8 ?) being a badass killing machine. Are you ****ing kidding me?! This little shit was able to take out some big guards with ease and did a lot of other stuff that was laughable.

Also , that new character Rose (the asian chick) was terrible. Just a drawn up try hard SJW that Rian Johnson apparently needed to add to the Star Wars universe .

God this film sucked so much. I wanted to vomit in my popcorn at that cheesy ass ending too.

How is it SJW for Asian people to exist? She did nothing in that movie that could possibly offend you except exist.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by sully1983

Also , that new character Rose (the asian chick) was terrible. Just a drawn up try hard SJW that Rian Johnson apparently needed to add to the Star Wars universe .

Holy shit this is ****ing stupid

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by sully1983

Another thing I absolutely hated about this film was that little volleyball droid (BB-8 ?) being a badass killing machine. Are you ****ing kidding me?! This little shit was able to take out some big guards with ease and did a lot of other stuff that was laughable.

Also , that new character Rose (the asian chick) was terrible. Just a drawn up try hard SJW that Rian Johnson apparently needed to add to the Star Wars universe .

God this film sucked so much. I wanted to vomit in my popcorn at that cheesy ass ending too.

the only reason Rose exists is to throw a wrench into Rey/Finn. Can't have a good space epic without drama.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Fish

I had a really difficult time accepting that Luke considered killing Kylo when he was a teenager. That just didn't sit right in the slightest. Similar to Anakin slaughtering kids. Complete head-scratcher moments that seem to go strongly against Jedi ideals. There were lots of ways they could have explained Luke's failed attempt at training a new generation of Jedi. This was the least expected, and it felt gross.

It didn't sit right with him either obviously for all the reason's you just stated (against Jedi ideals, not who he is... etc.). Which is why he didn't do it.

Now for the hypothetical debate... should he have? Not unlike the debate, "If you had a chance to go back and kill Hilter as a child, would you?"

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If he had killed him, it would certainly have gone against Jedi ideals but he didn't kill him.

The Jedi weren't infallible and as Luke pointed out, their hubris (and his) was their downfall.

And... not completely unprecedented. I just read a SW book, "Dark Disciple", (canon) in which Yoda and the jedi council send a jedi to assassinate Doku. Very un-jedi like thing to do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

the only reason Rose exists is to throw a wrench into Rey/Finn. Can't have a good space epic without drama.

She also plants the seed of the Rebellion on Cantonica

[Valiant]

Just saw it. It was okay. They literally need to hire some superfans for plot weaknesses.

So Rey in 2 days learned everything she needs to know to become a Jedi? Per Yoda even.

How did the emperor's ship hit the cargo ships? Last I saw they were out of range. Maybe I missed that part.

So, a ship going into hyperjump and ramming can do that much damage? Damn near defeated the fleet. If it has that much destructive force and can be piloted by one person. Why wouldn't you do that all the time?

The rebel base. Okay only one way in out once doors close. How the **** did everyone get outside in trenches and into ships?

I enjoyed kylo, if they are going for attention seeking, angst villian. No one truly fears him yet. He should of owned up to killing snoke. I am excited as I have no idea what he does next. Or how big the rebel fleet in the outer rim is. Mandalorians helping next movie?

Glad to see Poe's character step up.

I think they are wasting chewies character.

Why the **** even have phantasma or whatever her name is. Worse than boba Fett in not doing anything.

Force ghosts, explain why they all vanished. Luke should have had the help of at least 2 of them to teach. This needs explaining.

https://youtu.be/Mdm8rpv045U

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Just saw it. It was okay. They literally need to hire some superfans for plot weaknesses.

So Rey in 2 days learned everything she needs to know to become a Jedi? Per Yoda even.

How did the emperor's ship hit the cargo ships? Last I saw they were out of range. Maybe I missed that part.

So, a ship going into hyperjump and ramming can do that much damage? Damn near defeated the fleet. If it has that much destructive force and can be piloted by one person. Why wouldn't you do that all the time?

The rebel base. Okay only one way in out once doors close. How the **** did everyone get outside in trenches and into ships?

I enjoyed kylo, if they are going for attention seeking, angst villian. No one truly fears him yet. He should of owned up to killing snoke. I am excited as I have no idea what he does next. Or how big the rebel fleet in the outer rim is. Mandalorians helping next movie?

Glad to see Poe's character step up.

I think they are wasting chewies character.

Why the **** even have phantasma or whatever her name is. Worse than boba Fett in not doing anything.

Force ghosts, explain why they all vanished. Luke should have had the help of at least 2 of them to teach. This needs explaining.

Some how Rey goes toe to toe with Kylo who has had training from Snoke and Luke.

Rey is just some random mary sue with no back ground to explain her untold power.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by temper11

And... not completely unprecedented. I just read a SW book, "Dark Disciple", (canon) in which Yoda and the jedi council send a jedi to assassinate Doku. Very un-jedi like thing to do.

Quinlan Vos ?

[oaklandhater]

How I want the next movie to start

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Just saw it. It was okay. They literally need to hire some superfans for plot weaknesses...

I'm pretty sure that Rian Johnson is a superfan.

Originally Posted by Valiant

So Rey in 2 days learned everything she needs to know to become a Jedi? Per Yoda even..

She has the jedi texts... Yoda knew it which is why he says "she has everything she needs" or something like that. What I can't figure out is if he was purposefully trying to keep the knowledge that Rey had the texts from Luke - which is why he flamed the tree? Why would Yoda care if Luke found out Rey took the texts? If he doesn't care, then why bother striking the tree with lightning at all?

Originally Posted by Valiant

How did the emperor's ship hit the cargo ships? Last I saw they were out of range. Maybe I missed that part..

They were out of range to do any damage to the larger shielded "mother ship". but the transports had no shields.

Originally Posted by Valiant

So, a ship going into hyperjump and ramming can do that much damage? Damn near defeated the fleet. If it has that much destructive force and can be piloted by one person. Why wouldn't you do that all the time?.

This is no doubt a bit of a hole. Would have preferred it if Leia was horrified at the act because of some tear or something it would create in the universe. Something that made it seem like there was a very good reason, we just don't do that... ever - even in the face of planet-killing star destroyers. I think I'd have preferred it if Holdo just moved the ship in between the path of the transports and the FO to allow them to escape. Only reason I thing Rian went the way he did, was to try to level the playing field a little between the FO and the shredded resistance. Make each of them go back to their corners and lick their wounds a bit. But it's a plot hole, no question.

Originally Posted by Valiant

The rebel base. Okay only one way in out once doors close. How the **** did everyone get outside in trenches and into ships?.

Maybe they opened the door, let everyone out, and then closed it again?

Originally Posted by Valiant

Why the **** even have phantasma or whatever her name is. Worse than boba Fett in not doing anything..

Why not? That's like saying "Why even have Ned Stark if you're just going to be-head him in the first season." If no major-ish characters ever die then these kinds of battles ring hollow.

Originally Posted by Valiant

Force ghosts, explain why they all vanished. Luke should have had the help of at least 2 of them to teach. This needs explaining.

I don't get the impression that Force Ghosts in the Star Wars universe just have free reign to hang out as much as they want (like ghosts in Harry Potter). They seem to come and go when the situation is great or otherwise demands it.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

How I want the next movie to start

Eh. Just watch Return of the Jedi. It'll be the same thing.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Some how Rey goes toe to toe with Kylo who has had training from Snoke and Luke.

Rey is just some random mary sue with no back ground to explain her untold power.

We have beat this horse to death. How do you explain Anakin's ability to race pod racers as a child? Where was his extensive training to do that?

Where was luke's training to switch off his targeting computer and use the force to make that insane shot on the death star?

People who are force sensitive, seem to be able to do things others can't do. Ren is the one who opened the door for Rey when he tried to read her mind and she found, much to her surprise, that she was able to resist him. Like someone discovering late they know how to sing without having had any voice coaches.

Once Ren opened that door, Rey immediately starts to push and test that new skill. An "Awakening". Where have I heard that?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Quinlan Vos ?

Yes.. exactly.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

How I want the next movie to start

Misspelled words and all? I'm just f-ing with you.