Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?

[Pablo]

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Yup.

I don't know exactly where the Chiefs are going but this is a business - they will go where the money is.

Sure, between KS and MO, but I'm interested to know why we didn't hear a lot from other cities. Seems like the chiefs are potentially losing money if they don't look for bids outside of KC metro.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

Sure, between KS and MO, but I'm interested to know why we didn't hear a lot from other cities. Seems like the chiefs are potentially losing money if they don't look for bids outside of KC metro.

The NFL would lose credibility with a lot of fans if a franchise as well-supported as the Chiefs have been by a local fanbase entertained bids to leave. You have to remember that the NFL gameday product is fairly weak, 3 hours of pickup truck commercials and replay reviews and about 30 minutes of "action", if you can call it that. We NFL fans are fairly stupid and completely addicted. Thankfully, the NFL ensures that all the fanbases can at least hope to win a championship at some point in the near future. But, if the Chiefs were to pull some shit like entertaining bids from cities that almost certainly would be "non or only marginally major league" cities, it would throw a lot of ice water on fan faces around the country and wake a lot of them up and make them reexamine their lives and sports interests.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I'm sure it doesn't sit well with the Clarks when he sees what the Raiders and Chargers are working with while his team that is coming off of back-to-back championships can't get the ****ing air conditioning working in their practice facility.

Jackson County and/or the state of Missouri is going to dick this up and lose the Chiefs to Kansas, aren't they? I can just feel it looming on the horizon.

Clark Hunt\Hunt family is 100% responsible for the training facility not the city\state.

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by DanT

The NFL would lose credibility with a lot of fans if a franchise as well-supported as the Chiefs have been by a local fanbase entertained bids to leave. You have to remember that the NFL gameday product is fairly weak, 3 hours of pickup truck commercials and replay reviews and about 30 minutes of "action", if you can call it that. We NFL fans are fairly stupid and completely addicted. Thankfully, the NFL ensures that all the fanbases can at least hope to win a championship at some point in the near future. But, if the Chiefs were to pull some shit like entertaining bids from cities that almost certainly would be "non or only marginally major league" cities, it would throw a lot of ice water on fan faces around the country and wake a lot of them up and make them reexamine their lives and sports interests.

I don't believe that for a second (but of course you could be right!). If the team/league had the right price and the right city I believe they would already be gone. They extorted multiple cities during the "who is going to end up being in LA" years.

If fans and cities believed their team isn't going to move then what is the incentive for cities to pay billions of dollars to keep them?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DanT

The NFL would lose credibility with a lot of fans if a franchise as well-supported as the Chiefs have been by a local fanbase entertained bids to leave. You have to remember that the NFL gameday product is fairly weak, 3 hours of pickup truck commercials and replay reviews and about 30 minutes of "action", if you can call it that. We NFL fans are fairly stupid and completely addicted. Thankfully, the NFL ensures that all the fanbases can at least hope to win a championship at some point in the near future. But, if the Chiefs were to pull some shit like entertaining bids from cities that almost certainly would be "non or only marginally major league" cities, it would throw a lot of ice water on fan faces around the country and wake a lot of them up and make them reexamine their lives and sports interests.

Nah, this shit happens all the time across sports and everyone knows the worst case for any team is moving to a different city. The Browns did, and of course other teams relatively few people care about.

The main difference is the Chiefs' owner isn't a complete piece of shit.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

Seems like the chiefs are potentially losing money if they don't look for bids outside of KC metro.

Seems like every high priced free agent used KC to drive up the price and go somewhere else for more money for a good 20 years.

Looks like the Chiefs finally decided to do it themselves...

[DanT]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

I don't believe that for a second (but of course you could be right!). If the team/league had the right price and the right city I believe they would already be gone. They extorted multiple cities during the "who is going to end up being in LA" years.

If fans and cities believed their team isn't going to move then what is the incentive for cities to pay billions of dollars to keep them?

Both teams that ended up in LA either started there (the Chargers) or were otherwise significantly associated with LA (the Rams started in Cleveland in 1936, joined the NFL in 1937, and moved to LA in 1946, making them the first major league sports franchise not just in LA but on the Pacific Coast. The Rams remained in LA through the 1993 season, before moving to St. Louis).

The Chiefs haven't exhausted their options in the KC metro region, yet. It would look horrible for them and for the league for them to go shopping themselves around until they get further along in the process, especially given that they'd be courting mid-major cities, not somewhere like LA.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Nah, this shit happens all the time across sports and everyone knows the worst case for any team is moving to a different city. The Browns did, and of course other teams relatively few people care about.

The main difference is the Chiefs' owner isn't a complete piece of shit.

The NFL made a point of putting a new franchise in Cleveland and calling them the Browns. The Browns also moved to a city that got screwed by the Colts. Those franchises had at least an argument for moving, and yet the cities that got screwed were, in the end, made whole. Kansas City isn't going to get done wrong in the end, not with the way they've supported the team through most of its history.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Legends is like 5 minutes closer from the airport than Arrowhead is. Don’t think that’s a benefit even being discussed. I can say if they do it in that area, the parking will definitely become insanely worse.

lol okay except for the huge parking area any plan is required to build. They have all the room in the world in that Southwest corner

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

lol okay except for the huge parking area any plan is required to build. They have all the room in the world in that Southwest corner

New Arrowhead will share a parking lot with Nebraska Furniture Mart. Get there early if you want to find a spot.

[Kiimo]

Considering we have no idea where it will be built that's an impossible thing to say, you have zero idea where parking will be

[Pitt Gorilla]

Still don't understand why Jackson County didn't just vote to continue what they have. Why open the door like this?

[KimbleAnders4ever]

Originally Posted by wazu

Sounds like it has to win a vote next week, and then not be vetoed by Frank White. No word from the Chiefs and doesn't sound like they've been involved in this.

Partially correct. The vote passed 5 to 3 (1 abstention) which would already be enough to pass the entire legislature. If they vote within the next 2 weeks then they have enough time to override a veto and still get on the Nov. ballot. They could also wait and put it on the ballot at a later time.

Frank White never shows up to Jackson County meetings because he is the 1st base coach for the Monarchs (formerly T-Bones). Who knows what he is thinking? He seems to have little communication with other legislators.

State $$ from Missouri is partially dependent on who wins the 8/6 GOP primary for governor. Kehoe will play ball with the teams. Ashcroft says he is a no. Eigel is a hell no. If one of the latter 2 wins, then Parson will have to pull some strings on the way out the door. Some have floated a special session, some think Parson can give them economic development on the way out the door.

Overall, rumor I've heard is that the Chiefs prefer being in Jackson County because the taxpayer $$ is their golden goose. a 3/8 cent for 40 years is roughly the same amount as a KS STAR bond with a lot less complications. That factored with potential MO state money means the ceiling for $ is the highest in Jackson County by far. That is probably why its harder to get money out of those jurisdictions

[Katipan]

The revenue from sports betting around a brand new stadium in Kansas would pay it off way earlier than 30 years. They have to be at like 15million in tax revenue this year alone?

In Kansas.

That number will continue to grow to outrageous heights.

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Still don't understand why Jackson County didn't just vote to continue what they have. Why open the door like this?

Meth