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Discussion: All things Broncos.

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Everyone here knows that if Denver gets Cousins they'll win the division.

They might not get by NE and PITT, but they'll make a mockery of KC.

Ive got cousins that live in Denver, and theyve been saying for months radio talk out there has said fans wanted Alex Smith. I really didnt want Denver to get Smith as he might have been just good enough to make the Broncos very competitive. I put Kirk Cousins in that same mold, he is definitely an upgrade of what you have now. He will make you more competitive, for sure, but assuring we all know his acquisition will guarantee you the division, is a little far fetched, IMO. I do like your young safety, and think he is going to be a good one.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Using that logic, I could easily claim the Chiefs going 2-14 in 2012 in spite of 6 or however many pro bowl players liittered throughout the team was all because Brian Daboll was so bad, and not because of Romeo Crennel

Denver started the year out great, it's not like it was a disaster from day one.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Vance Joseph will be gone after this season, if not sooner. Book it.

If Denver has another season like last year you're probably right.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Denver started the year out great, it's not like it was a disaster from day one.



If Denver has another season like last year you're probably right.

Of course they did. They were still going off what they learned from the previous coaching staff.

Once that wore off and they had to lean on the current guys, the team was lost.

Elway should be no more than a consultant (like Marino in Miami) so the team can hire a legit GM.

I expect that to happen after next season blows up...or 2020 at the latest.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Elway should be no more than a consultant (like Marino in Miami) so the team can hire a legit GM.

I expect that to happen after next season blows up...or 2020 at the latest.

Elway's done a great job. His big mistake was hoping that Siemian or Lynch would take a big jump in 2017. That wasn't really a far-fetched idea at the time, unfortunately for him they both seemed to regress.

He's going to fix it this year. Back in 2016 he didn't have a whole lot of great options. Every single one of his options ( give Brock $72M, trade a 1st for Bradford, trade for Kaepernick, draft Lynch) were bad. This year he has a bevy of excellent options and I have total faith that he'll pick the right one.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by farmerchief

I put Kirk Cousins in that same mold, he is definitely an upgrade of what you have now. He will make you more competitive, for sure, but assuring we all know his acquisition will guarantee you the division, is a little far fetched, IMO. I do like your young safety, and think he is going to be a good one.

Nothing is guaranteed. I think Denver should be the favorite to win it if they sign Cousins, though.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Nothing is guaranteed. I think Denver should be the favorite to win it if they sign Cousins, though.

Lolol win what?

The Cleveland Browns will win more games than the Denver Broncos in 2018.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Elway's done a great job. His big mistake was hoping that Siemian or Lynch would take a big jump in 2017. That wasn't really a far-fetched idea at the time, unfortunately for him they both seemed to regress.

He's going to fix it this year. Back in 2016 he didn't have a whole lot of great options. Every single one of his options ( give Brock $72M, trade a 1st for Bradford, trade for Kaepernick, draft Lynch) were bad. This year he has a bevy of excellent options and I have total faith that he'll pick the right one.

[BossChief]

Besides signing Manning, what has Elway done well?

serious question.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He's accomplished more in 7 years than the Chiefs have in 50. And I don't want to hear about Manning, he threw 9 TD's and 17 INT's the year we won Super Bowl 50.

Elway built the highest scoring offense in NFL history AND a top 5 of all-time defense in a span of 3 years. Yes, he's done a great job.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Nothing is guaranteed. I think Denver should be the favorite to win it if they sign Cousins, though.

Why, though? You're more likely than not going to have to clear cap space by cutting/trading Talib and Sanders, who are top 3 players respectively on each side of your team. Washington allowed only 6 more points than Denver, and they limped to 7-9. Your supporting offensive cast might actually be worse than Washingtons if you get rid of Sanders, and your defense is going to regress even more with the departure of Talib. You claim the Denver defense only allowed so many points because of turnovers, yet Cousins threw 13 interceptions and fumbled the ball 13 times.

[BossChief]

Redskins 17 > Broncos 18

Not even close

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

He's accomplished more in 7 years than the Chiefs have in 50. And I don't want to hear about Manning, he threw 9 TD's and 17 INT's the year we won Super Bowl 50.

Elway built the highest scoring offense in NFL history AND a top 5 of all-time defense in a span of 3 years. Yes, he's done a great job.

Without Manning, Demarcus Ware, Aqib Talib, TJ Ward and Emmanuel Sanders don’t come to Denver on discounts.

It is crystal clear that Manning was the reason for Denver’s success, not Elway. Elway has a losing record in 3 seasons without Manning.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Without Manning, Demarcus Ware, Aqib Talib, TJ Ward and Emmanuel Sanders don’t come to Denver on discounts.

It is crystal clear that Manning was the reason for Denver’s success, not Elway. Elway has a losing record in 3 seasons without Manning.

Yep. They've drafted some fine players on D, but without those pieces they're not nearly as good.

[O.city]

Denver needs to revamp the offense. Theres not much there outside of the 2 WR's.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Without Manning, Demarcus Ware, Aqib Talib, TJ Ward and Emmanuel Sanders don’t come to Denver on discounts.

It is crystal clear that Manning was the reason for Denver’s success, not Elway. Elway has a losing record in 3 seasons without Manning.

Manning spent 4 years in Denver and went to as many Super Bowls with Denver as he did in 14 years in Indy. And Denver had Manning at the tail end of his career.