The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by O.city

So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

Pat's career could be ended with a single injury.

Having a good OL should be a high priority. Even higher as Mahomes ages.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well…..don’t wait til the last minute?

Here’s what we’re prepared to offer. If that doesn’t work let’s start calling to see who will offer what

"Cool - I'm sure we can make the numbers work. But talk to us again after Williams, etc... sign"

{Williams, etc... sign}

"Oh...yeah, we're gonna need $30 million..."

Again - there's just not much you can do if someone's operating in bad faith.

Because that's the only explanation that makes sense to me other than Veach knowing all this back in March and simply calling Jones bluff. Which isn't impossible but I'd still guess that we'd have heard SOMETHING regarding a potential Jones trade in that case.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yep. And let's be honest, the way we're going, we're going to have these same discussions with them.

HOW DARE CREED TRY TO BE THE HIGHEST PAID CENTER IN THE GAME!! DOES HE NOT CARE ABOUT HIS LEGACY?

We paid Chris Jones his 2nd contract which made him the 2nd highest paid DT behind Aaron Donald. Creed will get one too.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yep. And let's be honest, the way we're going, we're going to have these same discussions with them.

HOW DARE CREED TRY TO BE THE HIGHEST PAID CENTER IN THE GAME!! DOES HE NOT CARE ABOUT HIS LEGACY?

The highest paid C is Jason Kelce. He gets $14.25 APY. Thats less than half of what Chris Jones apparently wants.

A 25 year old top 2 C only getting maybe $15 million APY? Yeah sign him yesterday

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by O.city

So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

You're God damn right gif

[Warrick]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

What's more valuable?

A. A haul of draft picks in 2023.

B. A slightly lesser haul of draft picks in 2024 and one last year of elite DT play?

You'd also gain cap space and remove the shenanigans that wants to sit out 8 games or more!

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by O.city

So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

Those two keeping Mahomes upright is an essential piece IMO

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

What's more valuable?

A. A haul of draft picks in 2023.

B. A slightly lesser haul of draft picks in 2024 and one last year of elite DT play?

I’m going with B/ because I think each year you have Mahomes and an aging Kelce playing at this level you err on that side of things.

I don’t think we’re winning a Super Bowl without Chris Jones on the team this season. In the future? Certainly possible Because Mahomes. But it would be a huge gap to fill this year and we don’t have the wide margin of error many here seem to feel we do.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Per PFR, Of the Chiefs' 185 "pressures" in 2022 (combines hurries/knockdowns/sacks)...

46 were Chris Jones. That's 24.9%. A quarter of their pressures. One dude.

44 more (23.8%) came from Clark/Dunlap, who are no longer in KC.

That's... a lot. A lot a lot a lot.

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) August 23, 2023

No idea why Carlos Dunlap isn't here right now. He was a nice role player and will be needed with Omenihu out.

Maybe they think Kaindoh or Herring is gonna break out? Idk

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by -King-

An elite 29 yr old DT is more valuable than an elite guard and center at any age.

Is a 31 yr old. DT on the downside of his career more valuable than those 2…?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by O.city

So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

Why do you keep making it sound like the Chiefs don't want to sign Jones?

Is it at all possible that maybe Jones is being unreasonable and asking the Chiefs to leverage their future for another year (MAYBE two) of elite DT play?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No idea why Carlos Dunlap isn't here right now. He was a nice role player and will be needed with Omenihu out.

Maybe they think Kaindoh or Herring is gonna break out? Idk

I think the team must be thinking so.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’m going with B/ because I think each year you have Mahomes and an aging Kelce playing at this level you err on that side of things.

I don’t think we’re winning a Super Bowl without Chris Jones on the team this season. In the future? Certainly possible Because Mahomes. But it would be a huge gap to fill this year and we don’t have the wide margin of error many here seem to feel we do.

The d-line without Jones or Omenihu to start the season is not ideal.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"Cool - I'm sure we can make the numbers work. But talk to us again after Williams, etc... sign"

{Williams, etc... sign}

"Oh...yeah, we're gonna need $30 million..."

Again - there's just not much you can do if someone's operating in bad faith.

Because that's the only explanation that makes sense to me other than Veach knowing all this back in March and simply calling Jones bluff. Which isn't impossible but I'd still guess that we'd have heard SOMETHING regarding a potential Jones trade in that case.

Unless Jones and his agents are operating in some bad faith or changed their asks, the two scenarios that are possible are:

1) Veach and co. knew what Jones wanted and decided they'd rather have whatever they can get from Jones for this year and trade returns after this year (unlikely, IMO, considering the way they approached restructures and cap space. They pretty clearly were counting on creating some on the Jones extension).

2) Veach and co. just completely ****ed up

Most likely scenario is that Jones and his agents have changed their story and are acting in some bad faith.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by -King-

But we don't know what he was asking for or what he's being offered. What if Veach is doing the whole "I'm not budging on this number" thing he did with Tyreek and the number is 25-26mil and Chris KNOWS he can get 28-30 on the open market?

Yes, I wish I knew what the numbers were for sure.