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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 03-27-2025, 10:13 AM   #2116
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I am not a big believer in Jaylon Moore but he is more athletic than I thought with solid footwork and seems to have a good idea on how to use his hands and handle bull rushes.

It feels like they needed something now and pulled that trigger bc you never know what will happen in the draft.

I will say that Conerly and Simmons (if he’s cleared medically) are better options than what we’ve seen recently from tackles in the late first rd minus Anton Harrison.

Last year the insane run of QB’s, Bowers and tackles pushed studs like Jared Verse, Dallas Turner and Laiata Latu down the board. It feels like the inverse could happen with a ton of DL, a couple of TE’s, some corners and QB’s. Mocks have shown around 9 DL picked before 31 and so did the CP mock.

One last thing to keep in mind: who needs a LT after the Bears? Maybe the Packers? The Texans if they choose to address it and redshirt a prospect? Anyone else that hasn’t put a big asset recently into that position or already have their guy?

Feels like a damn near lock that one of Simmons or Conerly will be there for us.
I think so too, and I think the Chiefs probably knew this when they signed Moore.

I haven't believed for a second that they would take a RB, but what other position have the Chiefs done less to address?

OL? Added Moore. Moving Kingsley over to LG. Tagged and possibly re-signing Smith.

DL? Re-signed Omenihu. Added Tillery who is a minor drop from Wharton at worst.

WR? Brought Hollywood back.

Elijah Mitchell isn't comparable to any of those guys/moves.

I'm not saying the Chiefs are going to take a RB in the 1st , but it's just as likely as OT IMO. Maybe slightly less only due to position value.

I think DL is still most likely.
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Old 03-27-2025, 10:15 AM   #2117
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Not "pigeonholed". That would be their target 100%, and they'd likely be agressive in doing so. That's not the same thing.

Jesus I know you get triggered by Humphries but we're talking about past hypotheticals here. Relax.
Veach would need thrown out of the organization if he signed either one of Humphries or Wills with the intention of targeting Simmons in the draft. That's just inconceivably awful as a hypothetical.
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Old 03-27-2025, 10:26 AM   #2118
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Veach would need thrown out of the organization if he signed either one of Humphries or Wills with the intention of targeting Simmons in the draft. That's just inconceivably awful as a hypothetical.
You sure about that? They signed absolutely nobody last year and didn't even take a T until the 2nd round.

Hell they could've signed both, or Donovan Smith, point is if they thought they had their future starting LT in the 1st round of the draft they aren't signing Moore on top of it.

You are so caught up in something and missing the point entirely.
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Old 03-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2119
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That's a nightmare scenario for me.,

Simmons is a huge, huge risk. Injury concerns, lack of playing time/proven nature.

And Johnson is a big back who isn't fast enough and doesn't pick up yardage after contact.

Drafting those two 1-2 has a high chance of leaving you 0-2.
I agree on the tackles.

And while there's things about Johnson not to like, yardage after contact isn't one of them. He was 7th in the NCAa in yards after contact.

It's all about his speed. If he runs faster than the 4.6 people think he will run, he's going to move up boards.
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Old 03-27-2025, 10:35 AM   #2120
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I agree on the tackles.

And while there's things about Johnson not to like, yardage after contact isn't one of them. He was 7th in the NCAa in yards after contact.

It's all about his speed. If he runs faster than the 4.6 people think he will run, he's going to move up boards.
I think his YAC in college will not translate to the NFL. It's not as much about contact balance and elusiveness as it is about size and running over dudes.

If the idea is to get a physical back in this draft, there are better options. And he certainly is not a guy you should take in round 2.
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Old 03-27-2025, 11:26 AM   #2121
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Gun to my head, I think it’s LT for us at 31/first round right now.

Moore is already an unknown, and even if he was good, you’re an injury away from Wanya Morris at LT again.

I just can’t see Andy signing on for that. Think it’ll take a unique BPA situation for it not to be Simmons or Conerly, etc.

Roster right now in my opinion is Super Bowl ready as long as you have LT solidified and maintain better health than you did last year. So hedging at LT makes too much sense.

Can’t let LIX happen again. Between rounds 2-7, they can add the extra juice they need to really icing the cake at other spots.
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Old 03-27-2025, 11:28 AM   #2122
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I want Simmons! And then draft two dts we need to shift our allocated resources to defensive end and left tackle once jones retires
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Old 03-27-2025, 11:45 AM   #2123
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Gun to my head, I think it’s LT for us at 31/first round right now.

Moore is already an unknown, and even if he was good, you’re an injury away from Wanya Morris at LT again.

I just can’t see Andy signing on for that. Think it’ll take a unique BPA situation for it not to be Simmons or Conerly, etc.

Roster right now in my opinion is Super Bowl ready as long as you have LT solidified and maintain better health than you did last year. So hedging at LT makes too much sense.

Can’t let LIX happen again. Between rounds 2-7, they can add the extra juice they need to really icing the cake at other spots.
I believe you are spot on in their line of thinking. They absolutely see Moore as a viable, short term starting LT, but if Conerly or Simmons is available they are going to jump all over them. You simply don't get that value at OT without the question marks they have, and this gives you the opportunity to move on from Jawaan Taylor in 2027. If Moore looks good, you can play the rookie at RT after his redshirt year, then have him take over at LT in year 3 of his rookie deal. Pretty ideal situation.

If Omarion Hampton happens to fall, I'm not sure I could pass on him for a tackle prospect, but if there is nobody on their board who moves the needle, then this is definitely an option.
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They need to solve the LT issue long term, but I don't think any of the guys there at 31 will be that.

Wouldn't shock me if they go DE/DT.
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Gun to my head, I think it’s LT for us at 31/first round right now.

Moore is already an unknown, and even if he was good, you’re an injury away from Wanya Morris at LT again.

I just can’t see Andy signing on for that. Think it’ll take a unique BPA situation for it not to be Simmons or Conerly, etc.

Roster right now in my opinion is Super Bowl ready as long as you have LT solidified and maintain better health than you did last year. So hedging at LT makes too much sense.

Can’t let LIX happen again. Between rounds 2-7, they can add the extra juice they need to really icing the cake at other spots.
Simmons has the injury stuff and Conerly doesn't have the exact physical traits Andy desires in his tackles.

Furthermore, there's a good possibility neither of them are starters day 1, meaning you just spent a first round pick to NOT solve the problem you're looking to solve.

I don't think the probability is as high as everybody thinks.
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They need to solve the LT issue long term, but I don't think any of the guys there at 31 will be that.

Wouldn't shock me if they go DE/DT.
Exactly.
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They need to solve the LT issue long term, but I don't think any of the guys there at 31 will be that.

Wouldn't shock me if they go DE/DT.
Simmons is if they have confidence in his medicals.
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Simmons is if they have confidence in his medicals.
If. I hate that word.
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If. I hate that word.
Why? It's totally up to how they view his medicals. Chiefs wouldn't take him unless they're confident in that knee going forward.
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Simmons, a fast rb who can catch 2 defensive tackles and a corner / tight end

That’s the draft to me
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